Comalv

Someone sometime ago asked in berserker channels what was better since apparently Melee Crit Bonus applies to autoattack aswell

well i tried it, first try with TSO Set shoulders (6set bonus -> +8 Melee Crit Bonus on off stance), then with T2 Shard Armor Shoulders (lost 6 set bonus and some melee crit chance but gained +8% Base CA DMG), tried 6 pulls on training dummy with normal gear (not full tank gear, but not full DPS either) with each setup, using the same temp buffs in both sessions etc etc etc...result on merged parses is:

+8% Base CA Dmg gives around 200 ExtDPS more than +8 Melee Crit Bonus

(that's what i thought even before running the tests altho i thought base CA dmg would have given a way larger bonus)
just FYI.

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Varuna

According to math, crit bonus should add more dps, if you crit 100% in a fight (say on a training dummy). Say you use a CA that hits for 2k. 8% base CA damage added to that would add 160 damage (2,160). 8% crit bonus would add the exact same amount of damage, but also applies to your autoattacks. Though if your attacks didn't crit every swing, the +CA damage would be more ext dps.

What were your crit rates on those dummies?

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Comalv

100% on Autoattack and CAs (clearly not on procs)

i guess the math is different than it looks

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Onedustinone

8 base to ca AND spells?

if so thats why you got more DPS from the base.
Base spell dmg for w/e procs your using.

victer

sounds to me like either autoattacks arent using the crit bonus or you didnt do enough testing

crit bonus also should be getting applied after the +ca bonus so its makeing the +ca bonus even more effective (im assuming your still getting bonus from other places)

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Comalv

yeh that's true altho my main concern was using T2 shard armor or 6set bonus

would need to re-check parser and exclude all procs and i'm pretty sure base will still win but it will take me a while

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Maciz

What is the max Base CA damage you can get? Another 100% and thus your CA's do double damage? And isn't the base CA damage about the same as the normal +CA damage?

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*Hardain*

Base CA damage doesn't/shouldn't affect magical damage, like procs. But yea, crit bonus should give more boost than CA damage.

Comalv

Well i ran more tests dualwielding with the same setups as before and results were (on 8 tries each)

Melee Crit Bonus Setup: Autoattack: ExtDPS: 4210 (836 hits)
Base CA Damage Setup: Autoattack: ExtDPS: 4189 (828 hits)

So either Melee Crit Bonus doesn't work on autoattack, or base CA Dmg (or Base Spell Dmg) does aswell

And to Hardain: Base CA Dmg affects at least CA Procs like Turmoil and Off Stance proc

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Comalv

and for reference:
% Base CA DMG caps at 100%
Melee Crit Bonus caps at 50% (as afaik Melee Crit Multiplier is capped at 1.80)

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