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05-28-2009, 04:57 PM
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Character: Sess / Cyanide
Guild: Cataclysm
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Re: MT guard betraying to Zerk
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Originally Posted by Tumor73
If you can please post some screen shots, with maybe an explination of your CA rotation.
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Bind Wound + Turmoil + Clicky Berserk (from AAs) + Juggernaut + usually Adrenaline + Hold Rage (and if I'm in the mood Open Wounds for the extra Haste) on the pull. I usually open up with Acceleration Strike to get that going, then Ram, War Pledge, Frenzied Hits, Dismember , then just whatever CAs are up from that point on (try and avoid the two blue AEs since they delay your auto-attack). The first 30 seconds of the fight before Adrenaline drops will be your most aggro for the fight, followed by 30 seconds of suck while you have Adrenaline Sickness.
Zerker CAs do much less damage than Guardian CAs, and our taunts are much less effective than Guardian taunts. Makes us MUCH more reliant on auto-attack and hate xfers for aggro.
Try to tank in Offense stance whenever possible; if you're buffed and geared right you will be capped in Parry and Defense while in Offensive anyway. Only go in Defensive when you absolutely positively need the mit boost to survive (and prepare for suck aggro when you do).
The other 600 HP you're missing came from not using your Guardian Mythical and Guardian set pieces anymore, I reckon. Whatever you're wearing in those spots have less HP.
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Last edited by Xalmat; 05-28-2009 at 05:09 PM.
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05-28-2009, 05:09 PM
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Character: Hylas
Guild: Tranquil Rage
Server: Kithicor
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Re: MT guard betraying to Zerk
came in late to the post but
nothing to worry bout on the Zerk MTing or OTing.... just dont be a fool like alot of Zerkers looking at leather and chain gear and then bitching about survivability....
look for gear that has DPS/Tank attributes theres plenty of items out there for it.
im a MT Zerker not by choice but thats another matter, my survivability on Instanced Raid mobs has never been in question, if its a wipe its always the rest of the Raid falling apart around me, only mob i ever was worried bout was Gynok with ToD but when done right its a joke,
ive MT'd all of Tomb all of Palace and up to General in Inner now w/o a want of a Guard, So even if your New MT Guard doesnt work out dont worry MT Zerks are a def possibility
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05-28-2009, 05:11 PM
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Character: Sess / Cyanide
Guild: Cataclysm
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Re: MT guard betraying to Zerk
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Originally Posted by HylasTank
ive MT'd all of Tomb all of Palace and up to General in Inner now w/o a want of a Guard, So even if your New MT Guard doesnt work out dont worry MT Zerks are a def possibility
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Aye, our Zerker MTs everything just fine, can MT all of Tombs, all of Palace, Zarrakon, and everything in Ykesha up to Tyrannus (no pulls on Field General or Ykesha yet).
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05-29-2009, 09:48 AM
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Character: Tumor
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Re: MT guard betraying to Zerk
Thanks again for everyones contributions. Last night was my first night raiding him, and it was a challenge to remember where all the CAs were on my hotbars.
Here is something else I noticed last night. My avoidance went down from 78.1% to 73.2%. Mitigation went down a bit but I did lose 3 pieces of T4.
I already had the Zerk Myth, and the 3 pieces of T4 Guard fabled, were replaced with T3 x2 Fabled. So I can not justify the loss of 5% of avoidance.
When I broke down my Avoidance, it looks like my base avoidance was the one that was lowered. When looking at my Defense, with Guard I was over cap at 521, and Parry was at 516. On the zerker my Defense is at 496, and Parry at 491. Huge losses, but I can probably justify the loss of Def tothe guard Def buff, bt I should have that on raid anyway, and the parry, I might not have to worry about due to the Dirge Parry buff. I have to chek out what my avoidance is in raid and will come back and post.
I am looking at my Guard AA line up and trying to see if it came from AA, but still baffled,
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05-29-2009, 10:49 AM
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Character: Comalv
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Re: MT guard betraying to Zerk
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Originally Posted by Xalmat
Aye, our Zerker MTs everything just fine, can MT all of Tombs, all of Palace, Zarrakon, and everything in Ykesha up to Tyrannus (no pulls on Field General or Ykesha yet).
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He will have no problems on Field General or Ykesha either, quite the opposite :P
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05-29-2009, 01:26 PM
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Re: MT guard betraying to Zerk
Yeah other than losing +Defense from the Guardian raidwide (which should be made up with another guardian in the raid) I can't think of any reason why we'd have lower avoidance. Did you change your KoS AA line any? Maybe the penalties for Guardian and Berserker Offense stance are different. That's the only thing I can think of.
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05-29-2009, 08:19 PM
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Character: Kascall Skyyshot
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Re: MT guard betraying to Zerk
Doesnt matter anyways, with Hold rage in offensive stance and our temp mit buffs we more then outdo guardians for overall agro and taking hits if u know when to use adrenaline and your healers know that when it drops the hits are gonna hit for double then what you were taking prior while it was running. I was a guard since release, went to OT zerker mid RoK after a small hiatus and havent looked back....loving it tbh.
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05-29-2009, 11:30 PM
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Character: Lyger
Server: EQ2 what?
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Re: MT guard betraying to Zerk
zerks have a CA rotation? the big buffs you will know when you see them, those are the only important ones to start with.
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05-30-2009, 06:01 AM
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Character: Hylas
Guild: Tranquil Rage
Server: Kithicor
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Re: MT guard betraying to Zerk
avoidance loss is also probably due to Agi difference.... Guards get decent amount on there Defensive stance plus there gear has more than Zerks...
go buy a exceptional elixir of deftness potion to test it but my 7/7 T4 Zerker with nice jewelry too gains bout .5% avoid per 50Agi gained when im sitting at 620 agi self buffed which is pretty weak but im fully fabled so not much else i can bout it.
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05-30-2009, 06:17 AM
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Re: MT guard betraying to Zerk
dude, avoidance from agi is totally worthless, its even worse than avoidance gained from +def/parry skill, don't waste your time getting agi or using agi pots lolol
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