NitzHairspritz

Now that I finally have my Mythical, is it really worth is to use my blue AEs if they are only hitting mobs my Myth AE effect would hit anyway? The damage of both blue AEs seems to be half of what I am auto-attacking for so unless I fit them perfectly in between my auto-attacks, I am probably hurting my dps.

I typically run with haste at 150ish when grouping, wearing a mix of T1 and T2 with decent fabled jewelry from WoE, ToMC, etc.

This is all anecdotal since I am not a parse monkey. The green AE is total shit due to is long cast time. It has to be.

nyquist

well don't forget, one of the blue ones has knock back AND hits mobs behind and to your sides...also I think the green one has a stun too, so those can be nice situationally


but if your auto atk is hitting for more than them, remove them from your casting order imo...

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*Hardain*

Both wrong.

You do realize that both blue AEs fit perfectly between your auto attacks, and they deal good amount of dps, and one is a stun too. Especially when you dual wield.

Green AE does have sucky cast time, deals lowest damage and only hits encounter, but it also has 2,5 sec stun, and when you are DW'ing it doesn't delay auto attack, it's good when the encounter has multiple mobs, and/or you need to stun them.

Also, your AE auto attack only hits max of 4 mobs in front of you.

Xalmat

Depending on your haste, you can delay your auto-attack by casting a blue AoE. And your Blue AoEs do less damage than your auto-attack.

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Maciz

I DW all the time and have had a haste of 250 max somewhere down the line. Even then non of your CA's delay your auto-attack if your timing is good

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*Hardain*

With shield our epic delay is minimum of 1.3s with 200/125% haste. Blue AEs with Acc Strike have casting time less than that, especially if you have bard or other sped buffer.

Xalmat

You're not factoring in the recovery time associated with using a CA, nor lag.

Even with Acceleration Strike and the INT end-line, our blue AEs still take 1.2 seconds to cast + 0.32 seconds recovery = 1.52 seconds total time. Recovery time is dead time, which means even during that period of time you can't auto-attack or even use another CA.

In comparison, with max haste (125%) your Mythical swings every 1.33 seconds if you have a shield on, 1.78 seconds if you're dual wielding. There's barely enough time dual wielding to squeeze in a blue AE without delaying your auto-attack, and no time when you have your shield on, unless you have something like Time Compression, Upbeat Tempo, or Divine Recovery going (and even then it's pushing it).

And again that's even ignoring lag. Even with a perfect internet connection, anything faster than a tenth of a second is subject to lag of all kinds, be it server lag, client lag, or just plain human error.

I'm not saying don't use our blue AEs; they have their purpose. But they usually end up delaying your auto-attack when you run extremely high haste.

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Lizerd Keng

Pretty sure this is (partially) wrong. You can auto attack during recovery, but not cast another CA.

Peterson

if you have to snap a croud of adds thers nothing better than blue aoe (gibe will bring the named too in most cases)

victer

the only time its ever usefull to cast a blue ae is if you have 8+ mobs (out stronghold anyone?

i may try and squeeze one in when im fighting 6 or more if i feel like it... but anything under 6 is a waste its too risky to slow down a autoattack.

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