MT?

rorion · 07-13-2007, 10:23 AM

Just curious how many of zerkers are MT'ing raids.

We have both guardian and zerker.

Healers love the guardian because he seems to be much sturdier and they have an easier time keeping him up.

DPS (warlocks mainly) love the zerker because he can hold AOE hate so well and they die less. But the healers end up having to eat through power because his health is ping-ponging so much..

Epitaphe · 07-13-2007, 10:40 AM

i think Skel & Mateo are MT of their guild and both their guild are dominating their respective server so i d say zerker are a viable option.
i actually m MTing for the guild

edit : lol your sig makes me laught.

Khorne · 07-13-2007, 10:47 AM

I do my fair share of MT'ing in my guild but we do also have a Guardian that Mt's quite a bit also.

Would say it's about 60% him and 40% me on MT'ing.

Skel · 07-13-2007, 11:08 AM

My healers dont have problems with power and im in offensive 99% of the time and i mash jugger whenever i can =] It just all comes down to people playing thier classes well. Lesser healers might not be able to support a zerker, or a lesser zerker might not know how to MT.

Frogweiser · 07-13-2007, 11:26 AM

Once a mob is debuffed .... i would imagine anyone can MT

But skel is right people that know how to play there class is what it all boils down to.

*edit* i always looked at the guardians TOS , and Dragoon Reflexes most use as a way to save themselves from people not keeping up. Maybe im wrong but eh , whatev.

KFizzle · 07-13-2007, 02:26 PM

i'm MT most of the time,mostly only when we split mobs on encounters do we switch things up or change things. Our guardian is good but he cant hold agro like me ;-)

Dedaehder · 07-13-2007, 02:31 PM

Zerkers for MT's are fine and dandy. For 90% of high end raid content Id choose a Zerker over any class. As for healers keeping them up, thats mainly about the player skill in healers and the MT. If a Zerker for MT pulls Mayong in O stance with a Buckler equipped and no temp buffs going...most likely he will get owned. Also, DPS has to be aware of what the MT has equipped, for me...if Im MT and I have a tower on with D stance, which I rarely do, DPS has to take it easy off the start cause most of a Berserkers hate is DPS (for me anyways). Guardians dont really have that much over Berserkes when it comes to D, they have the luxury of being able to hold agro a bit better in D stance with a Tower because of Reinforcement and they dont rely on DPS for hate as much, they have stoneskins but thats only a few hits so its not going to make or break your raid. For some of the more challenging mobs Guards are good MT's. Also, mobs that mem-wipe are normally better for Guards unless you have a Coercer with Thought Snap. When I tank Treyloth in FTH it can be a little more challening for me to gain agro after he memwipes every 25% then it is for our Guard but once I have it its hard for anyone to peel.

Grevious · 07-13-2007, 02:41 PM

From a Guards perspective we both are dominant to MT and raid in the game and there is proof for both classes. I MT everything anytime I am in the raid a Guard not MTing if in the raid is pretty much a waste. Zerkers offer way more to a groups dps and therefor make better offtanks. We roll where both the MT and ST fight for aggro all the time some fights its me holding all the aggro other times its our zerker.

Both of us are leagues ahead of the other tanks to be able to MT everything in the game. Yes other tanks can its been proven but the first time you tackle a encounter throwing a crusader or brawler at it makes no sense. Way I see it unless your Guard sucks if you have one the MT while the zerker offtanks just fits better. A zerker will hold way better ae aggro then me for adds like avatars, although I feel I hold my own on that respect. I hold very solid aggro tanking offensive with a Tower shield as I refuse to go buckler.

Mexule · 07-13-2007, 03:17 PM

I don't MT a lot, only when guard is on vacation or whatnot. But i can tell you this, if i ever let my group give me their full hate buffs, i'm tanking over half of the time due to my dps aggro (destruction+juggernaut = instant aggro and even reinforcement won't pull it off me sometimes). A zerker in offensive stance = unstoppable for aggro. since i come from a not so uber guild, when it comes to mobs like mayong i'll let the guard tank b/c i'd have to be in defensive stance and that sucks cause my screen overloads on me missing the mob (warden buff helps a lot tho, but still miss a lot). If you need your MT to be in defensive stance guards are just better b/c they have melee boost buff which helps reduce the misses by a little, as well as their hate proc going off more often and reinforcement is very helpful to get some burst dmg and boost your aggro. Nonetheless i have tanked all the mobs our guard has tanked.

Mateo · 07-13-2007, 05:39 PM

Ive mted everythign int he game witht he exception of 2 avatars that havent popped. But i let our guard tank most mayong fights cause he can ToS the touch just makes it a bit easier, not that a zerker cant tank mayong.