Malicious Assault - Double Up

twoboxer · 08-27-2007, 04:59 AM

A lot of folks, if not most, recommend using Malicious Assault as part of the Double-Up sequence. The reason FOR it is clear, and this isn't intended as a discussion of what does the most damage when all goes well.

The problem I have is that MA is (talking base here) on a 30-second timer, and DU is on a 60-second timer.

Which means that MA will be used once more before DU is ready.

Which - for me - meant that there were too many times MA wasn't ready exactly when DU was. And that delayed valuable CAs a bit. Or caused a loss of a doubled CA.

So I use Dispatch-Devitalize-(Sinister Strike)-Ruinous Rake-Restrain-DU and they are always ready in sequence.

Anyone else?

Rhymez · 08-27-2007, 06:27 AM

after the first cycle im using Devitalize and Ruinous Rake aswell for the Double up Sequence
Id like to add that also ma Restrain is just on a 40sec recast
but my dps isnt dropping it doesnt really matter tho
latley its rare anyways i can get a 2nd sequence in since the mob is dead mostly trash that is
and prolly 2 or 3 sequences on the most named mobs
and my Sinister is never up for the 2nd sequence since im always using it for the first one

Lord Pantz · 08-27-2007, 11:30 AM

I've never had an issue with waiting on MA when DU is back up.

Gesari · 08-27-2007, 11:40 AM

Honestly it's to the point now where for me, and I'm sure many others as well, I hit everything pretty much as soon as it comes back up, so I normally never have a problem waiting on MA, unless there's lag, which of course BB is famous for. Fucking 4 sec CA delay in instances...

twoboxer · 08-27-2007, 02:45 PM

Yeah, Gesari, me too . . . except for that "Debuff/DU sequence".

Yeah, Rhymez . . . sometimes the second sequence doesn't seem to matter. But for us in raids it usually does, either because there are multiple mobs or the trash-pulls are fast or the mob is a Boss. And yes, Sinister's Timer means it isn't always up, but its easy to skip over without losing tempo, even for an old dog like me.

It's been a while since I tried using MA in that sequence - maybe I should give it another go.

Thinking about it, my problems probably started with sometimes needing to time Traumatic Swipe, a desire to use the double-jump-over to get Revoke in while still spamming a burst of CAs, lag occurring somewhere during the "55" seconds before Dispatch lights up again . . . anything including my reflexes are probably a bit slower than yours, Pantz lol.

Once Dispatch lights up, I want to fire it and go right down the line through DU . . . even though DU won't light up until 5 seconds later . . . I want to KNOW that each of them will be ready when I get there.

Maybe this turns out to be a "tip" for the reflex-impaired lol.

Ninibi · 08-29-2007, 12:28 AM

Quote:

So I use Dispatch-Devitalize-(Sinister Strike)-Ruinous Rake-Restrain-DU and they are always ready in sequence.

Anyone else?

I like this -I was using MA previously, but switched to a similar lineup and my dps just jumped up.

Only difference is I use Despairing Thrust vs. Restrain from the start, then go through the 3 biggies to get that defense debuff in there before the others go off. I'm still fiddling around with this but am happy so far with how it's going.

Snooze · 08-29-2007, 09:15 AM

Don't really have a problem with MA and Double Up!

What has thrown me out of my rhythm a bit is the 20 sec less on Restrain ... and try to replace it with sideswipe or stab which ever is up at given time!

How are others coping with the 40 sec restrain, who used to combo mainly MA & restrain in the past ...

on Mulit encountes if they are stacked up, I try to Rake, Devitalise then
Dispatch, -> Tab to the 2nd mob and hit DU! So that at least Dispatch gets on the 2nd target as well!

Tholar · 08-29-2007, 09:23 AM

aye that rocks. while casting disp or whatever you chose last in that line, hit tab to target next mob and then queue DU instantly, else youll have problems to double it up, due to lag etc

Orochan · 08-29-2007, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snooze

Don't really have a problem with MA and Double Up!

What has thrown me out of my rhythm a bit is the 20 sec less on Restrain ... and try to replace it with sideswipe or stab which ever is up at given time!

How are others coping with the 40 sec restrain, who used to combo mainly MA & restrain in the past ...

on Mulit encountes if they are stacked up, I try to Rake, Devitalise then
Dispatch, -> Tab to the 2nd mob and hit DU! So that at least Dispatch gets on the 2nd target as well!

You can devit/rake/dispatch two mobs if you have sailwind and are fast enough.

Just hit devit, then rake, then dispatch, but while your casting dispatch hit tab to switch, then hit DU. I find it works wonders

Snooze · 08-29-2007, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orochan

You can devit/rake/dispatch two mobs if you have sailwind and are fast enough.

Just hit devit, then rake, then dispatch, but while your casting dispatch hit tab to switch, then hit DU. I find it works wonders

Yepps! but they will need 2 be close to each other, if not and u need 2 readjust a bit I tend to be able to get only 2 CAs doubled up... thus I usually use rake -> devi and then dispatch last, while on single target i do it reverse!