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11-08-2007, 07:08 PM
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Character: Lurtz
Guild: Knights of the White Shield
Server: Splitpaw
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Re: Weapon Delay
All you basically said is you want A, B, C, D. You gave no reasons why they should, just told them what to do.
The more information people have the better judgements they can make for themselves and they are able to see all the reasoning behind it.
There are other procs that aren't normalised out there, some classes have procs that are % based on any attack. I don't want to give any examples incase they are meant to be normalised :D
@Mandark, thats pretty much spot on what is happening.
I'm pretty sure that the Main hand and Off hand have their own timers though, so you can pause the auto attack of one hand by casting a spell but if the other hand was delaying it won't be effected :D
Timing CA's/spells in between 2 weapons that have different Delays is close to impossible especially with lag in game etc.
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11-09-2007, 10:36 AM
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Tengo un fuego en mis pantalones!
Character: Choatley
Guild: Tribe of the Seven Moons
Server: Mistmoore
Posts: 1,351
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Re: Weapon Delay
Souldreamer, he also thinks spec'ing WIS line before you have any double attack AA to spend is a smart idea and will defend it to the death.
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11-09-2007, 12:18 PM
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Character: Entropie/Athropos
Guild: Confirmed/Radiant
Server: Unrest/REM
Posts: 2,583
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Re: Weapon Delay
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Originally Posted by Choadley
Souldreamer, he also thinks spec'ing WIS line before you have any double attack AA to spend is a smart idea and will defend it to the death.
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you are horrible at the process of debating/arguing a point
your recipe: take things out of context, ignore the actual point of what's being discussed, ignore any valid supporting points that someone else may make, and blindly push forward with your argument
wtg. you're a fucking pro. you can join the rest of the idiots in that thread over the in douchebag lounge for cocktails later.
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11-09-2007, 02:56 PM
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Character: Varun
Guild: WoW!
Server: Lothar
Posts: 1,242
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Re: Weapon Delay
Lol, but Firamas, wasn't that exactly what you said in that thread though?
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11-09-2007, 10:40 PM
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Character: Scoundril
Guild: D12
Server: Oasis
Posts: 279
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Re: Weapon Delay
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Originally Posted by firamas
you are horrible at the process of debating/arguing a point
your recipe: take things out of context, ignore the actual point of what's being discussed, ignore any valid supporting points that someone else may make, and blindly push forward with your argument
wtg. you're a fucking pro. you can join the rest of the idiots in that thread over the in douchebag lounge for cocktails later.
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NERF LOVER!!!! I'd just like to say thanks btw...
On topic, if your going to give advice bro, at least make sense and know what benefits the class most. Stick to PvP because that is all you know. PvE is way different. Most of the posts I have seen ou put on here are preferenced to PvP so please make that known to the people asking questions. KTHNX.
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11-12-2007, 10:14 AM
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Tengo un fuego en mis pantalones!
Character: Choatley
Guild: Tribe of the Seven Moons
Server: Mistmoore
Posts: 1,351
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Re: Weapon Delay
Quote:
Originally Posted by firamas
you are horrible at the process of debating/arguing a point
your recipe: take things out of context, ignore the actual point of what's being discussed, ignore any valid supporting points that someone else may make, and blindly push forward with your argument
wtg. you're a fucking pro. you can join the rest of the idiots in that thread over the in douchebag lounge for cocktails later.
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Oh my poor feelings!
No, I pretty much quoted what you said. There was no context taken wrong there. There were pages of your stupidity posted. You based a whole arguement on choosing something stupidly, because you could earn the other AAs needed in time. I'm fine arguing a point, you sir are a retard.
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Last edited by Choadley; 11-12-2007 at 10:16 AM.
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11-12-2007, 10:43 AM
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Pirate IRL
Character: Varun
Guild: WoW!
Server: Lothar
Posts: 1,242
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Re: Weapon Delay
Oh man, Choadley. If we're gonna get into this again...you should probably put my quote back in your sig.
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11-12-2007, 10:50 AM
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Tengo un fuego en mis pantalones!
Character: Choatley
Guild: Tribe of the Seven Moons
Server: Mistmoore
Posts: 1,351
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Re: Weapon Delay
Heh, yeah, it would apply. But, I'm not going any further then this. We all know what that thread said and how it went. No need to pull it all back through here again and derail further than I already have.
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11-16-2007, 07:47 PM
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Character: Recast / Paperclip
Guild: Paradise Lost
Server: Oasis
Posts: 466
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Re: Weapon Delay
Yeah, I agree with Choadley here. This thread ain't for flaming. Speaking of which, there is an excellent sticky under the rate-a-retard section entitled "Keigo had IRL sex with my wife" or soemthing along those lines. Quite funny.
And, to the OP, slower delays=higher crit (due to the damage spread), higher dmging auto attacks, and more procs. So slower delay tends to pwn. (haste=a happy paerclip)
Last edited by Paperclip; 11-16-2007 at 07:48 PM.
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12-05-2007, 06:11 PM
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Like a fat kid loves cake
Character: Daishan
Guild: Paradise Lost
Server: Oasis
Posts: 41
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Re: Weapon Delay
Well, before the flames started, I was learning something ;)
So here is what I am deducing...
Currently I am using a Lucanic Sabre (4.0) and a Blackheart Rapier (4.0). I am specced for Sailwind. So, after consulting /weapon I have a base delay of around 5.3, and i am looking at a CA every 0.8 seconds.
5.3 / 0.8 = 6.625, or six CAs between each auto attack *unbuffed
In my regular group I get some haste, bringing me up to around 4.1 delay
4.1 / 0.8 = 5.125, or five CAs between each auto attack
Is this right?
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