firamas

tried it out casually about 2 months before RoK came out and liked it. specced into it again with no hesitation when the AA cap was lifted. to quote dane cook, i find it to be delicious AND nutritous. =)

discuss!

Tholar

for a raiding brig is nothing else but tenure, safehouse and the enhance to the other debuffs...

power never should be a problem for you (not with mental breach or tnt cloak. or the many power proc items now)

Gesari

I can see it having it's uses, especially in PvP, however raiding on a PvE server I think we benefit everyone more if we spec to enhance our debuffs.

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Metal

I use it so i don;t need to use cloaks/mental breech ect ect and do more dps and i still have all debuffs maxed..........

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Lord Pantz

ive said it once and again its a fucking waste of points in pve.

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Zalathorm

I like it too firamas. It ensures that I never have to use mental breach. DPS is alot higher with caustic or hemo. Using mental breach is a "fucking waste of dps in pve."

Tholar

zalathorm, go get a clue, and get some power proc items, that line is a waste of points.

cloak of woven leaves ftw. and now in t8 the mob from which it drops is even easier (can nearly solo it i guess)

Gesari

Psh, I can nearly solo the harbinger myself

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Metal

Not sure where else you put the points in then tholar lol. I actually like points in hardened and our aoe. safehouse is the biggest waste of point imo. Faster invis longer cheapshot faster hideaway woohoo....... Sure i got increase AR from that line but thats it. i guess if your setup doesn't allow you to do 3-4k dps without getting aggro unless you spam aggro debuffs and try to cheapshot epics (which ofcourse doesn'y work) and use our crappy invis instead of the int line one its awesome.........

But thats the good thing each to there own.

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Tholar

sorry metal but you dont have a fucking clue about safehouse. try to keep your debuffs constantly up on mobs with bigass aoe's, popping adds which stuns etc etc. just take the contested mayong fight for an example in t7, when few guilds killed him. adds popped, they stunned you, AR wasnt up, you get hit by soul para and blanket shortly after and bam, he heals 2%, debuffs gone etc. so far safehouse saved my ass quite a few times on contested fights (and now also in RoK). try it out first pls before you judge it and i did try out honor amoung thieves. it blows. period.