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Old 02-11-2008, 07:35 PM  
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Hmm.. It still looks rather tasty, very nice delay and split.

Its just the rear based combat art thing.. hopefully it works on flanking attacks as well. Guess I'll test it when I get one hehe!
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Old 02-12-2008, 02:46 AM  
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The 30% increase should work on the flanking OR behind attacks as well, imo technically they are rear attacks because of the "OR behind"!!!

So we should all /petition to get that changed so we can have 8 cas effected instead of 4...
doubt they'd allow it mate, 30% increase is a very heavy amount.
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Old 02-12-2008, 08:56 AM  
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doubt they'd allow it mate, 30% increase is a very heavy amount.
Assassins get a 30% dmg increase to all their stealth combat arts, a chance to get their wep auto-attack "multiple times" and a proc that gives em 15% melee crit.

Wizards get 10% dmg increase to ALL their fucking spells, a 10% chance to SPELL DOUBLE-ATTACK....

And we get a debuff that doesnt do shit cause there's a debuff cap, a 30% increase for 4 ca's (instead of 8), and a haste buff that wont do shit for me cause of my troub/illu group and raidwide CoB.

Hey, wait... least i can unequip my haste item now...

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Old 02-12-2008, 09:15 AM  
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Assassins and wizards are supposed to be the top dps in the game.

And no one has ever proved the magic number of the debuff cap and it definitely hasnt been reached this expansion. If I miss a raid or have to afk its beyond obvious.

I completely agree however that it should be all 8 positional attacks.

And I wont bitch about the haste because I don't always get an illusionist especially these days since we don't have an active one.

I think if they changed the positional attacks to be included in the boost the weapon would be right where it should be for us since our trademark is debuffs.
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:49 AM  
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And no one has ever proved the magic number of the debuff cap and it definitely hasnt been reached this expansion. If I miss a raid or have to afk its beyond obvious.
I don't think he meant the mit debuff - pretty sure he meant the Attack Speed debuff, because I've never known there to be a cap on mitigation debuffing and yea, it's really obvious the difference between dispatched(ed) and not.

The attack speed debuff does nothing and there is a known cap.
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:59 AM  
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still, the weapon is disappointing considering other classes's dps improvement with epics (guardians are the best example i guess), 40 haste and 20 haste debuff is not even near to the 15DA or 15MC procs from other weapons.

the dmg increase to CA's should affect all rear and flanking attacks, agreed.

the debuff proc could be a tad higher.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:05 AM  
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And no one has ever proved the magic number of the debuff cap and it definitely hasnt been reached this expansion. If I miss a raid or have to afk its beyond obvious.
I meant the additional haste debuff. I'm pretty sure there is a haste debuff cap.

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I think if they changed the positional attacks to be included in the boost the weapon would be right where it should be for us since our trademark is debuffs.
I agree with that. Making the effect apply to all our behind/flanking attack would fix the weapon imo. I'd be happy then. I really dont expect more than that.
But what are the chances of them actually fixing that... I seriously doubt we'll ever see that happen.

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I don't think he meant the mit debuff - pretty sure he meant the Attack Speed debuff, [...]
The attack speed debuff does nothing and there is a known cap.
Exactly, but... i'm female!
Think it's funny to tell the guys in my guild to "Man up, grab your balls and start dpsing like... a girl!!!!"

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Old 02-12-2008, 10:16 AM  
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still, the weapon is disappointing considering other classes's dps improvement with epics (guardians are the best example i guess), 40 haste and 20 haste debuff is not even near to the 15DA or 15MC procs from other weapons.
Yeah, but Guardians need that kind of buff to hold agro in VP, especially with all these shiny new weapons.
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:18 AM  
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I meant the additional haste debuff. I'm pretty sure there is a haste debuff cap.
If one were to change the haste debuff - what would you change it to? How about a double attack debuff?


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Exactly, but... i'm female!
Oops, sorry.. but everyone is a guy until proven otherwise - even if you say your a girl
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:23 AM  
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If one were to change the haste debuff - what would you change it to? How about a double attack debuff?

Oops, sorry.. but everyone is a guy until proven otherwise - even if you say your a girl
Tbh no idea what to change it to. I wouldnt know any debuff worth adding.

And regarding the other thing. I passed the vent test and some people have seen pics.
(and actually: who do you think the girl in my sig is. Pity I'll have to change it again as I ended up not changing mains to templar. Pity, really. Always made me giggle.)
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