Orochan

Your completely ignoring a lot of factors when comparing weapons, Damage spread is not the end all be all factor of weapon comparison.

l2p tbh.

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Cexi

No, I just compared those weapons.
Comparing Segmented Serrator to Throatripper is a bit different. You will actually need to use math and/or compare them in-game.

You can easily see that Segmented will out parse Fabled Epic/Carotidcutter. 4/5MC or 5DA (and weak procs) just doesn't make up for the MUCH lower Damage Spread.

Segmented is 60 - 340 (I think) while Fabled Epic/Carotid is 50 - 295 (not exact numbers).

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Orochan

Havoc ( fabled ) = 77 - 306 | +4% innate crit | has a haste and DD proc.

Segmented = 60 - 343 | no extra mods or proc

Carotidcutter = 74 - 297 | +5 innate DA | Has a DOT proc.

All are 4 sec delay.

Now since both havoc and CC have MC/DA mods you cannot just simply look at their "base" damage spread, or you will get a skewed result.

For havoc you must do min/max damage X .30 ( a crit ) X .4 ( the innate crit amount it has ) + base min/max damage of weapon, which = your new min/max damage values.

So its 86 damage for a min damage really, and 343 for the max damage.

This is of course for the base damage only, but as you can see a 4% crit mod is ALL you need on havoc and it already has a better spread then segmented, not to mention it comes with a DD proc and a haste proc ( tho the haste proc gets little to no use in raids imo )

I don't really feel like going into math with the CC but if you honestly want me too I will, though iirc I do not think CC can out parse the SS, but havoc definitely wipes the floor with both CC and SS.

Also no one better reply with "well you should be at 100% crit in raids neways etc etc" because honestly if your in a raid force where your capping crits and DA you will ( or should ) already have your mythical at that point.

Edit : Oh also there is a small chance my math may be off, double checking it again, I just feel like I forgot to do something correctly, but my point still stands that havoc is the superior weapon, in the mean time I'm going to re-check again and again until I figure out what I forgot, if I forgot anything at all >.<

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Iryssinia

.4 is 40%. It should be .04 for innate crit. So using your formula (which I'm not even sure is correct), SS would be greater than fabled Havoc. Your formula also doesn't consider the extra 4% crit on the second weapon, etc.

I'm pretty sure someone with more time and a better head for math than me could figure out the exact equation we want to use here, but what you put out isn't it.

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Liunie Nar'Thex, 80 Brigand
Bloodthorn, Antonia Bayle

Sudden

Empowered Talon of Milyex if pretty sweet as offhand.

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Lynch

Just parked my Throatripper for Lifespike. Looking forward to seeing the diff.


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Orochan

The second weapon doesn't matter when comparing what main hand you want to use because the second weapon will give the benefit no matter what weapon you choose to put in your main hand.

But ya I fucked up the %'s which makes me a sad panda .

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Cohonil

Enjoy! Although I cannot compare it to throatripper, I think you will be pleased--especially if you wear bloodthirsty choker. It will also put you on the heal parse.

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Johnathon

On a few fights, i've topped the heal parse with those 2 items on.

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Iryssinia

I was talking about the 4% crit that fabled Havoc gives to the offhand swings, since segmented serrator has no crit addition.

Was swapping back and forth between fabled havoc and SS last night (I took a break before the group I raid with got into VP) with Betrayal's Song on my offhand, and while those few fast fights in PR don't really make representative sample, my slash autoattack damage was higher with SS by a good margin, and my overall DPS tended to be a few hundred higher.

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Liunie Nar'Thex, 80 Brigand
Bloodthorn, Antonia Bayle