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Old 07-22-2009, 08:01 PM  
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As far as I can tell INT still adds to poison damage, granted its not a huge change, but going from about 300 INT to about 600 INT increased poison dmg by about 140 points.
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Poisons don't crit anymore, and that was the main reason to work up INT. Pretty sure that has been discussed at length on these forums.
This is completely untrue. Getting INT up had nothing to do with Poisons Criting, it had to do with the fact that it increased the damage that Poisons were doing, and it wasn't very hard as it was to cap out STR and then start working towards another stat(that being INT).
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W/e dude you work up INT all you like. If your single poison that does damage benefits you so greatly that it's worth wasting four AA points to max out INT, go on with it.
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W/e dude you work up INT all you like. If your single poison that does damage benefits you so greatly that it's worth wasting four AA points to max out INT, go on with it.
I'm not knowledgable enough (either by reading or testing) to really contribute too much to how the stats effect when talking about small-ish numbers... But if it IS easy enough to cap out STR then it couldn't hurt to take a few points out of the STR AA to something else... be it int or another AA.

However, if INT does increase the poison damage, I can see easily how some people (especially those with a high STR already at or near cap) would get some INT. I mean, unless I'm way OFF, this whole thread (and forum) is basically about doing max DPS... so anything that increases your DPS is valid. Yes INT may not give a large boost, but it's not like anyone is saying to get INT over everything else.
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Sorry for a newbie question (cause that's what I am), but I havent found it discussed anywhere. What is the suggested Grandmaster pick at level 75? I'm debating between Puncture and Bum Rush (due to their 10 sec recast it seems like those would be a bigger dps gain than the other options). Bum Rush is more damage than Puncture, but the increase in the Puncture attack speed reduction seems valuable (or is it not in a group/raid situation due to other classes having better slows?) I don't have masters for either yet, gonna expert up the ones i dont pick for GM

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Sorry for a newbie question (cause that's what I am), but I havent found it discussed anywhere. What is the suggested Grandmaster pick at level 75? I'm debating between Puncture and Bum Rush (due to their 10 sec recast it seems like those would be a bigger dps gain than the other options). Bum Rush is more damage than Puncture, but the increase in the Puncture attack speed reduction seems valuable (or is it not in a group/raid situation due to other classes having better slows?) I don't have masters for either yet, gonna expert up the ones i dont pick for GM

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I'm not the most qualified to answer, but I'm actually highly considering Rob. I know it seems somewhat odd of an choice since it needs stealth to work, but we get a few abilities that put us into stealth while in-combat quickly. We also could just recast stealth while fighting something if we want to, so it's not that hard to use and I figure the extra STR reduction on a mob is going to be a good thing.
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Sorry for a newbie question (cause that's what I am), but I havent found it discussed anywhere. What is the suggested Grandmaster pick at level 75? I'm debating between Puncture and Bum Rush (due to their 10 sec recast it seems like those would be a bigger dps gain than the other options). Bum Rush is more damage than Puncture, but the increase in the Puncture attack speed reduction seems valuable (or is it not in a group/raid situation due to other classes having better slows?) I don't have masters for either yet, gonna expert up the ones i dont pick for GM

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Bum Rush received love in the shadows AA tree ( bottom line - Distracting Weapon ), making it pretty much the obvious choice for M2 pick.

Most would say.
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W/e dude you work up INT all you like. If your single poison that does damage benefits you so greatly that it's worth wasting four AA points to max out INT, go on with it.
Why the fuck would you waste 4 points for 16str as a Brigand? im really curious,
you do know 4 ranks more in any of the rank 2 KOS tree ca's will net you more dps than 16more str right?

Solo im Str : 1199, Stam : 960 Agil : 542 Int : 488 Wis : 52.

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STR : 4/8/4/8/2
AGIL : 4/8/4/8/2
STAM : 4/4/8
yes thats 69/70 but im a slack fuck and still don't have 200 AA's yet (193) maybe if it was worth having more than 180 or so id have grinded them out.

And as for hitpoints, you can never have to many fucking HPS as a Brigand, so many aoes ignore AR, or are coupled with a DS that drops AR, or a DS that makes your CA's miss, so you cant proc AR in time that AR is getting to be pretty fucking redundant.

Im sat at 15,008 hps solo with mount/food/drink, usually on mobs that have nasty aoes im in OT grp with 2 healers, temp/mystic usually putting me just shy of 20k hps, that saves my ass more than AR does these days, other times im with a cleric solo, and trust me the HPs all matter. its the diff between eating an aoe and being in the purple / Dead club, and being at 15-30% health after you ate it.

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Old 07-23-2009, 02:35 PM  
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Bum Rush received love in the shadows AA tree ( bottom line - Distracting Weapon ), making it pretty much the obvious choice for M2 pick.

Most would say.
Yup, Bum Rush, or Side Stab as it used to be, was pretty much always M2 of choice, even more so now you can get extra crit / base dam, mod for it via AA's.
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No suprise you're a fan of the Bum Rush sir. No suprise at all.
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