New shit from retard devs???? - Page 6

firamas · 06-28-2009, 05:20 PM

I don't think it'll ever happen, Orochan. At least not in 100% of cases, or even >90%. There are simply too many classes vs the number of raid slots. You need a literal 1 to 1 correlation right now to make that happen. If the subclasses were collapsed into the 12 base classes things might be very different.

I do, however, think that it's a goal of the dev team, of any dev team, to include every single class in a balanced, meaningful role on raids. To think otherwise is to assume that they are pursuing a bad business model.

...and if we assume that the intention is to include every class in a meaningful role, then tell me how that intention gets turned into reality....

Orochan · 06-28-2009, 05:30 PM

I agree also, with everything you said haha. Too many classes, not enough raid spots.

I see two options, one being yours, to reduce classes, or to increase the spots needed to fill a raid. I'd much rather have them consolidate classes though, it's hard enough getting 24 good players lol.

I think their intention is a step in the right direction, that being to make summoners a more wanted spot in raids, but I think they are going about it in the wrong way. I mean if a dev just sat down and read the eq2flames' necro/conjy class board they would be presented with limitless ideas on how to better the class.

that's imo though.

Madrix · 06-28-2009, 06:14 PM

Glad I started raiding part time with my troub. We honestly don't even miss having a brigand along. Cant even tell a difference.

JimmyTurbo · 06-28-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrix

Glad I started raiding part time with my troub. We honestly don't even miss having a brigand along. Cant even tell a difference.

Except the part where having a brig is massive for boosting raidwide dps

stivan · 06-28-2009, 07:28 PM

Brigands take too much of the responsibility. I'm glad they are making this change. It makes sense.

Deson · 06-28-2009, 07:30 PM

It only makes sense if you see everything else. From the only info that's been posted, it doesn't.

Lord Pantz · 06-28-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrix

Glad I started raiding part time with my troub. We honestly don't even miss having a brigand along. Cant even tell a difference.

wow. just wow.

Orochan · 06-28-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrix

Glad I started raiding part time with my troub. We honestly don't even miss having a brigand along. Cant even tell a difference.

I guess you were a shitty brig then lol

Anyways back to the topic, as long as SOE gives us something equal in return I won't sweat it.

Cattnip · 06-28-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Pantz

im here at ff09. ive heard everything. ive talked to aeralik several times this weekend. they have no idea the details on this. its just an outline.

as long as we get something in return worth a fuck for anything we might lose.. which sounds like primarily rake... atm... then i really dont give a shit and neither should the rest of you.

and like i said to the ragequitting emo whores after all the original AR nerfs in eof... good riddance, and fuck your couch. this shit is like 8 months away anyway. im worried about keeping a raid force together, let alone something that no one has any idea how its going to turn out.

You guys were lucky to have this man there. He grilled Aerilick on this shit more than a few times that I saw. I played Brig for 3 years and now on the other side of the rogue fence and EVERYTHING that I heard was that Brigs will have adjustments made to equal the loss of the debuffs. I am sure no one that plays a Brig would turn down hurricane or more AOE DPS if that was added in place.

Sticknstab · 06-28-2009, 08:33 PM

If they wanna give us some new abilities or greater damage output in return that would be nice. They've never given us anything before when they've taken things in the past. This time around it would be nice if we got something other then a big fuck you.