Lord Pantz

exactly... ive also thought of strikethrough % reduction, haste and dps debuffs that reduce % based instead of a number since most mobs are hasted to like 500 on the backend.. mob double attack reduction, etc.. ive been bitching about swash debuffs forever... if we give decent feedback and they actually fucking listen... then there is some potential.

it just not better be fighter revamp 2.0

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JimmyTurbo

There is a lot they could do to modify both swashbucklers and brigands with quite a number of rare mechanics becomming more common with TSO. Though most of them would fit better for swashy.

Another thing someone mentioned in brig WW I thought was a pretty cool idea would be to add a component to dispatch that disabled damage shields with a 1-2 min immunity from the effect.

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Firesouled

I'm still not convinced that they'll actually add in anything useful for us in returns for changing our debuffs. History just doesn't speak to that. Some kind of limited immunity to those damage shields would be fucking awesome. Reactive stun/stifle/disarm/target lock is fail.

Zykdous

So.. cancel it and get back to fighting rather than lying there if it doesn't land?

Orochan

That's the point, it's still useless and it's still at the least 2-3 secs of doing nothing. I mean I don't even use it for soloing that much anymore, why wud why wen most mobs die faster by pure auto attack + 1-3 CA's.

The biggest thing effecting ruse is the outdated system it uses, and the fact that it takes no + mods into effect. I have rused a mob before and have parried 3 attacks, which defeats the purpose of even using ruse to begin with. That is why at the least they need to change it so you have absolutely 100% chance of getting it.

Imo though they should just change it into a straight up behind only attack + a debuff.

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Divexo

Maybe make thieves guild single target group/raid..or reduce the % and make it raid/group wide to all mit debuffs. Other than that, i really enjoy playing this class. The ruse ability does suck as well

Zykdous

Here's a hint: when you target a mob, it shows its target as well. This is known as the implied target. If no implied target shows up, and the mob is deffinately in combat, that means you are the target. If, however, it has "MainTank'sName" as it's target, it is not targetting you. A mob can't have 2 targets at once, silly.
So, here's what you do.
Target the mob. You should see it is targeting the tank. Then, use ruse. If the mob is on you, good job, you'll be back up in no time, fighting again.
If, however, the mob is still targetting the main tank, what does that mean?

Yes, you're right! The mob is not on you! So click ruse again. What this will do is make you cancel the ability, it's pretty cool, right? So click ruse that second time, and you can continue fighting. If you practice this and get good at it, you'll see no loss to your dps.

Good luck!

Orochan

Zyk, I'm only going to say this once. You suck, and have no idea wtf I'm talking bout, nor any idea on the brig class in general.

My point wasn't that ruse was broken, and never did I imply or say that I didn't know how to use it.

The point was and has always been : It's useless. In raids/groups I use it and 99% of the time the mob targets me then goes straight back to the tank thus the CA is wasted, and yes it does lower dps because you have potentially missed your own auto-attack and/or a CA that you could've used in place of ruse. Ruse is a gamble, it always has been, but because of how SOE has changed/updated game mechanics, it useless in it's current form and as such has lost its risk vs reward factor.

Now please just troll the berserker forums with tuor or something.

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Zykdous

If I'm the one who knows nothing about brigs, why are you the one who doesn't even know you can cancel ruse, lolol!

Orochan

I've always known how to cancel ruse, that was never my issue, but GG on failing to read.

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