Strago

would be worse than wizzy rays imo cuz instead of raping one spell outta a mage's lineup due to interrupt it would be raping how many target's worth of ae for an entire raid for the duration of the spell...


that is the worst fucking idea i have ever heard in my entire fucking life, period. knowing our retarded devs, it'll probably end up being something stupid for a change anyway, but that is absolutely ridiculous... do you work for SoE?

Septro

Oh FFS you are a prickly bunch. The official sport of most of the posters is bitch&complain it seems. Expand on the idea or come up with your own instead of the stereeotypical emo /wrist cutting.

For example, you could've said: Instead of just a plain AE to SingleTgt spell conversion, it would still do so but change the dmg of the AE spell to act as if it had 4 tgt's to hit. So a 4x multiplier that might make a conversion type enhancement worth the cast on SINGLE TGT MOBS..

Strago

so in effect they'd be making a new mechanic for the raid to do spell/ca flurry based upon AE targeting.

sounds difficult to code, for one (which lowers the probability that it'll get done that way).

also, it would make AE classes far more desireable in raid due to the ability to stack all that AE damage (which if added together in a multitarget situation would yield far more damage than your run-of-the-mill ST spell/ca).

this would throw the fundamental balance of raid even further off from what SoE is trying to "fix", and therefore would make it an idea that they more than likely wouldn't consider.

im not shooting the idea down, but i AM pointing out the fundamental flaws in the concept.

am i a mechanics designer? no, im not.

can i provide insight on something where it's plainly obvious that the rest of the EQ2 class communities would call "ridiculous" or "unfair" or "imbalanced"? fuck yeah i can, cuz i know what the community does when there is an issue... they yell for the nerf bat.

BTW they're changing Rays, if you read my last post.

Septro

Yea I did - but the core of the riposte was that IMO, the idea of the Brigand class turning into a T1 DPS is really a heckuva longer shot than some of the mechanic changes they are willing to incorporate to find raid-slot homes for a lot of undesirable classes.

What I suggested is more akin to become the ultimate enabling class. It guarantees us a spot in raids but it also makes other classes highly desirable due to our benevolence. Bards can be ultimate utilitarian to work on defensive, healing, resists and spell enhancements while rogues are THE class for maximum raid DPS either through our debuffs or some of the other ideas I threw out.

TheEasternking

Except thats the fucking problem, SoE/Aeralik, Already believe this is the case and do not want us to be that any longer, hence the proposed changes to make 4 class's do the job of the 1 currently doing it.

So thats maybe why you're getting so much shit with your lame fucking ideas.

Septro

What pray tell are the topical ideas that have come out of your ass that define the class?? You commiserate and stew on every potential change with the myopic view that the world is coming an end and your in-game avatar is going to need Dr. Phil emo therapy due to the lack of debuffs or debuffs being shared somewhere else.

Fuck the way it's written here you may as well just exenterate yourself now every time you read LiveUpdate release notes.

Tool.

TheEasternking

Look, i know this may be kinda hard for you to grasp, but i will try one last time for you.

Aeralik, and the rest of the people that matter over at SoE, believe that Brigands are so raid essential because of the Abilitys we have, and that raids are penalized to heavily if there is not one online for a raid night.

So to stop this, because they dont think its right 1 class is so powerful, 2 nor so desired, they are going to remove a Brigands Magical debuffs and add them to the summoners, they are ALSO going to make Swash debuff Physical Mitigation the same as a Brigand, so that on the off chance you're Brigand is having a night off, the Swash can do the same job and the raid does not lose anything, Still with me?

So all your proposed changes, do they make Brigands more essential again? more specialized? more bad stuff for a raid to try and replace if you dont have a Brigand available ?, Still with me yet?

if they go through with said changes, the ONLY thing we will get is more dps, they are not going to give anything to Brigands that no other class has, they are not going to make Brigands or Swashy's Raid essential beyond the proposed scope.

hope you can understand that now fuck face,

The only way out for Brigands in the current proposed changes that we know about is for them to make us a mirror of our counter part Rogue, if they do not, then you wont have a reason to take the lower DPS rogue class on a raid. and whats the point of making us a Mirror of a Swash? they may as well just merge the 2 class's into Rogue and have done with it.

Septro

Your fucking crystal ball is so far up your own ass you can smell your own shit from your Brigand shoes even before it happens aye?

There are so many unfounded assertions in your post that all it serves is to beguile the next tool that comes up behind you saying "Yea! what he said, Brigandz iz gonna suxor!!"

Your dumbass screamed the earth is flat and we're gonna fall off of it when the AR nerf went in. NO one will want a Brigand.. the same tools as you had uncontrollable bowel movements when the Achievements came out favoring the Swashy and decried the death of the Brig..

Your the type of dumbass who would stab your own mom in the teet just because her saggy nipple looked at you funny, just to fucking complain.

TheEasternking

Ahh, Cant argue or refute anything i have said, so in the true time honoured fashion of flames, ill just insult you instead, gotcha.

saves me reading any more of your pointless and retarded posts.

Septro

I'm surprised your insolent-ass was reading at all. My point was made clearly, the removal or sharing of skills =/= raid obscurity, as readily made evident from a historical perspective. Your tired argument has been made ad infinitum - but instead of providing decent feedback for which we could rally around and codify, your idea is 'Gimme more DPS'.

There are just only so many unique encounters that can be made if everyone just had massive top'o the parse capability but your hazy senile cataracts can't look at the forest behind the DPS tree. Screw it, your just incorrigible, u'd rather sit under your AR AOE perma-avoidance umbrella with Dispatch on a .2 cast with 5 second recast.

What's the use of you yelling Dispatch and when no one will be around to hear it...