CA damage versus Swash

Heal · 10-21-2009, 05:11 AM

Is it just me, or is our CA damage very poor versus a Swash?

It's just that I have been farming Clefts of Rujark for about a month now and picked up a few 'equivalent' Master's for Swashy... and they do a lot more damage than Brig CA's while also providing half decent debuffs.

I created my Brig back in November 2008 and didn't play him for many months, I only really picked up the playtime in May this year... but the Brigand was obviously horribly nerfed at some point, and it seems like very little/nothing was given back...

Just something I observed...

Ofifi · 10-21-2009, 09:54 AM

swashes are better and brigs were only really passively nerfed by never being buffed as much as other classes as time went by

malos · 10-21-2009, 05:25 PM

I am not really sure if swash ca's are better but I do think that brigands are better single target burst damage or at least they once was in my experience. Swashies seem to only be better in aoe do to having hurricane.

I have seen lesser equiped brigs beat my swash on single target fights by a very good margin, but on the flip side I do better aoe wise.

That was back in ROK though and many things could have changed since then.

Heal · 10-22-2009, 04:50 AM

Thanks for the feedback

I do love my Brig and wouldn't change him for a Swash. It is interesting to see how the damage differs between the classes.

I have also been in groups with with very geared Swashies and outparse hugely on single targets... and the Paladin wins on the AoE's lol!

Thanks again.

Davngr · 10-28-2009, 07:11 AM

i know virtually nil about swash but i do play a brig and i would say that it isn't so much that swash have better/higher hitting ca's as much as it's that they have better buffs, both temp and permanent.

malos · 10-29-2009, 05:44 PM

One thing to remember is that yeah swashies will have the bravado proc that gives them temp haste which is good if there is no or little haste buffs in a group. However in raids bravado is mostly wasted since haste buffing will place most swashies close to the cap.

I don't know if brigands get any temp buffs of their own. If not then brigands should have a greater ceiling for dps growth at least on single target fights in raids if the proper buffs are present.

I still think that brigands have stronger single target dps, but I may suck at single target fights on my swashie.

Venser 2.0 · 10-30-2009, 08:47 AM

ive played an 80 brig for a while, not mine, but here and there. my main is yes. a Swash, but i would have to say overall. Brigands have higher damaging CAs, not by much.. but they just do... yes swash does amazing on AE, but Swash also can out do a brig evenly geared both evenly skilled on a single mob, FACT. i prefer my Swash because the fighting seems more exciting, the brigand seems drull.. not bashing them, i love when they dispatch.. but Swash > Brig for overall any dps, ae and single

malos · 10-30-2009, 04:30 PM

If both the swash and brigand are capped da, crit, haste, & dps mod and if the brigand ca's have a higher damage rating then I would pose that the brigand should be higher dps. At least on single target.

Milambers · 10-31-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Heal

I have also been in groups with with very geared Swashies and outparse hugely on single targets

Rubbish ones maybe! Qtoon is 65 now, I doubt there's a brigand near his level that can outparse him

JimmyTurbo · 10-31-2009, 12:48 PM

Brigs have harder combat arts but, swash have better temp buffs, self buffs and imo fit better into a MT group set-up VS. a brigand in a DPS group set-up. Which is why Swash > Brig DPS.
I played both my swash out dps's my brigand with 3 set pieces on, my brigand has 7