CDS vs FSB vs CCM - Page 5

illuminare · 06-03-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Pantz

if a zerker ever had a higher zw than me id probably kill myself.

and if they arent giving you the dps buff or agitate then you are seriously being robbed and they are wasting those buffs.

I said "melee" dmg....not includ CA......

Did u ever see /weaponstat about the difference between fighters and scout in same weapon? the answer is fighter's base melee dmg>scout...

and don't forget zerker have 76% double attack

illuminare · 06-03-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoundril

I throw those numbers in that group fairly easy with str/wis. You also regretted to say what weap you were using. I have CCM and with that type of group can post 2500+ 95% of the time long as there is no lag. (Oasis seems to be laggy serverwide in raid zones lately)

Could u plz just post the numbers u did... and group settings..thx

Pinski · 06-03-2007, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illuminare

I said "melee" dmg....not includ CA......

Did u ever see /weaponstat about the difference between fighters and scout in same weapon? the answer is fighter's base melee dmg>scout...

and don't forget zerker have 76% double attack

This is completely wrong. Base auto-attack damage goes in this order:

Predator
Rogue/Bard
Fighters
Priests
Mages

illuminare · 06-03-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Apollodon

this is just wrong

/agree with pants

two things i would like to know what weapon is he using and are you comparing % melee, total damage, or melee dps?

i just find it very hard to understand how a zerker can out melee a brig, that is wis line with ccm

and what the hell is the inq buffing in that group if not you?
bru need another dps buff? the dirge?
O_o

more dps could come out of you and the group i think if you take a look at the buffs, you should be close to hard cap all the time on haste and dps in that group

what does the zerker parse(i cant let that go lol)

1.he use folded scale blade

2.i was saying melee dmg not includ CA..sorry for making u guys misunderstanding

3.i don't know what's up with our inq...i think maybe he forget to buff me..and i never ask for buffs

4.zerker's base melee dmg > brigand...and zerker have 76% double attack we only have 72% that's why i think agitate on zerker have more benefit than on brigand

5.that zerker is our guild leader.. i won't get the buff if he don't want to give me haha

illuminare · 06-03-2007, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinski

This is completely wrong. Base auto-attack damage goes in this order:

Predator
Rogue/Bard
Fighters
Priests
Mages

My CCM:
str:669
dps mod:20
actual dmg:251~753
delay:3.0

Our Zerker's folded scale blade:
str:576
dps mod:20
actual dmg:218~653
delay:2.5

can u explain why he use 90 dmg rating sword > my 93.2 rating sword??

i think that's because fighter's base autoatk dmg>scout's base autoatk dmg

illuminare · 06-03-2007, 03:25 PM

My Chel'drak Shard:
str:654 dps mod:20
actual dmg: 157~627

Our zerker's Chel'drak Shard:
str:548 dps mod:20
actual dmg: 166~666

Scoundril · 06-03-2007, 03:52 PM

I don't have saved logs to prove the DPS, but i was saying in that group i could throw 2500+ pretty easy. especially if the inq is running haste all the time. You'd be pretty well capped for dps/haste. With CCM capped your looking at about 1500 dmg high end before debuffs. With debuffs and crits you are hitting 3k+ high end no porb. Low end youll hit around 1kish. Add in there CoB... spike dmg at start of fight should be 5k+

Densha · 06-03-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by illuminare

5.that zerker is our guild leader.. i won't get the buff if he don't want to give me haha

Wrong!! It's not my problem. Maybe fury and inq hate you

Apollodon · 06-04-2007, 10:29 AM

/weapon is not very good to compare because that is not what your stats are going to be like in combat

you have to use a parser and break it down

also how is the fold scale better than ccm?

Quote:

My CCM:
str:669
dps mod:20
actual dmg:251~753
delay:3.0

Our Zerker's folded scale blade:
str:576
dps mod:20
actual dmg:218~653
delay:2.5

what you posted, it is clear the ccm is better

next thing that one of the others will have to help answer or point out
doesnt +attack stats affect the actual dmg: shown in /weapon

looks like you +attack stat is the suck compared to the zerkers

but i am almost 100% sure if you compare the parse for total melee damage you are pwning him without the buffs and would do more then he takes advantage of with them

and get +attack stat gear

Scoundril · 06-04-2007, 06:30 PM

Was that dmg solo or with buffs? The buffs given the zerk would increase that dmg too. STR, +atk, ect affects that.