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Old 08-10-2007, 07:35 PM  
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WOW!.... just... WOW!!

Swash going exile... ok, im exiled... but brig exiled to take Marr.. WOW..

You got some issues...
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:10 PM  
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Wow I guess they picked the right name for these forums seems all the reading ive done on here no matter who you are what you say or do some dipshit is gonna flame ya!
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:20 PM  
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Well if you went exile to get the Marr cloak, you kinda deserve it...lol
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:21 PM  
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agree there

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Old 08-15-2007, 02:25 PM  
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:27 AM  
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well ive got both cloaks now done some testing with my parse and so far zek cloak sucks ass marr owns due to time the rpoc lasts.

not done with the testing going to take on 20 mobs one at a time with just auto atk with each cloak and parse it to see which cloak is best.

but so far the zek cloak sucks we will see with a full parse of 20 mobs each
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:21 AM  
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well ive got both cloaks now done some testing with my parse and so far zek cloak sucks ass marr owns due to time the rpoc lasts.

not done with the testing going to take on 20 mobs one at a time with just auto atk with each cloak and parse it to see which cloak is best.

but so far the zek cloak sucks we will see with a full parse of 20 mobs each
with the kind of differences you're looking at there for % of your total DPS, i.e. very small fractions of your totals in either case, 20 mobs isn't going to be anywhere near enough of a sample size to come to any conclusion


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Old 08-19-2007, 12:07 PM  
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I don't know where you guys are getting your info but the advantages of the marr cloak FAR outweigh the zek cloak from the perspective of dps.

The zek cloak will net you 595 damage per proc as a theoretical maximum value, as well as +14dps for 6 seconds; and while the marr cloak does no damage directly, the dps increase (+15) and the str increase (+50) will net you a greater dps increase as they last for 15 sec as opposed to the 6 of the zek cloak.

If you seriously think that you can't do at least 595 (plus the 6 seconds of +14 dps) extra damage with +50 str and +15dps in the 9 extra seconds that the marr cloak has over the zek... even from just the increase in your auto attack damage... I think you need to seriously re-think your class choice. As a raiding brig you should fart 595 damage.

Only with capped str and/or a few proc-rate increase buffs will the zek cloak end up adding a greater overall dps value than the marr cloak.

You people need to do your damn homework before flaming somebody who's looking for advice.

As a side note, I'm interested to see the raw data from those parses Skytter.

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Old 08-19-2007, 12:36 PM  
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The zek cloak will net you 595 damage per proc as a theoretical maximum value, as well as +14dps for 6 seconds; and while the marr cloak does no damage directly, the dps increase (+15) and the str increase (+50) will net you a greater dps increase as they last for 15 sec as opposed to the 6 of the zek cloak.

Only with capped str and/or a few proc-rate increase buffs will the zek cloak end up adding a greater overall dps value than the marr cloak.
Any raid brig from a good raid guild WILL be above the soft cap for STR and should be floating at 800+ fairly easy unless they just get some seriously gimp group. They should also be getting some fairly nice DPS mods. That 50 str will do less than you think. Compare your current CA damage to what is is while the proc is active. Then find the difference. Also do the same for your weapon auto attack. Now find how many swings you get in that time allotted for the buff. Now think of what buffs you ALREADY have in a raid. Yours in particular might not be the same as others. Me for example, I normally sit above soft camp for DPS mod so that dps does me no good really. The 50 str? Im usually dang close to hard cap.

Perhaps for a brigand who is not well geared and is in a group that is not well suited, it MIGHT. But for the average raid brigand it will.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:56 PM  
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Default Re: exiled question for my brigand

Erm...any brig who does even labs/lyceum pickup raids regularly should be approaching the str soft cap if they've got a m1 version of hardened.

If you want a real dps proc, get a str ring.
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