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    Default Re: Band of Thugs + Other Beta changes

    Also you should be capping thug's poison at 5 stacks within your first 5 CAs on most named. Not hard to use words of the dread exarch, will of the hounds, or deepwater charm.

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    Default Re: Band of Thugs + Other Beta changes

    As much as I enjoy Thug's Poison, we are going to just agree to disagree.

    The modicum of DPS you gain from left side is mitigated by the utility gains and huge AoE damage you will get from right side. Plus less headache (also admittedly less fun). Hell, Shred is almost almost 100% worthless for trash (silly point but w/e) or aoe fights. I will say I LOVE Venom Explosion for that though---but now that Exacting is fixed you won't be able to take it.

    Also taking right side motivates you to push for more MA and that 8th hit. Not too many things are better than getting an extra 200k+ every time u swing your weapons...
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    You're either really overestimating CB/Blinding Dust or really underestimating Vital Weakness.

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    Default Re: Band of Thugs + Other Beta changes

    I mean I guess to that I'd say:

    You're either really overestimating Vital Weakness or really underestimating CB/Blinding Dust.

    1.5% inc damage is hardly amazing or fun, it's like having a 1.5% hp debuff but worse since it only affects physical damage and nobody really notices or cares. "Meh" I think it is the word you like to use.

    And it isn't really that possible to underestimate CB, especially >40 cb. That isn't a small amount...

    Also that 8th auto attack hit is going to add a nice chunk more damage once you are geared for it---1k MA isn't exactly a dream anymore. I know my autos hit for over 100k apiece (and my weapons are shit), so that's 200k every 4s basically. That's 50k damage per second itself, which is going to basically balance out with Thug's Poison on most fights, regardless of ninja tricks to make it proc more. And Dust is going to be around 8 million damage vs 8 targets. 8 fucking million damage.

    Buff I went for left side basically because you and Kaitanz cowed me into it last update, but I think you are trippin if you think BD is "situational" now.
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    Default Re: Band of Thugs + Other Beta changes

    A lot of it is going to depend on the type of content. If stuff is ae avoidable/ae damage I'll probably be right but otherwise it'll be left.

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    But that is fight-to-fight. Mobile AA Mirrors have been on everyone's wishlist for like 5 years but apparently that's not happening.

    And tbh they should make Dust override unavoidable AE's. Otherwise I think the aoe prevent is worthless---although I have to spec it for some reason. It seems super powerful, but really who the FUCK is saving that monster so the healers can take a smoke break when an AoE hits? For the most part if it's a 1-shotter it's unavoidable anyway...
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    I did last night :\

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    Yeah I saw your parse in the parse thread. You still hate BD?

    I do get kind of sick of HAVING to spec one way or another though. That aoe prevent is horse piss. Wish they would link it to something else or give us a separate button. I was campaigning for it on the officials but got crickets. Guess they like the Brigs to suffer a lil bit...
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    Default Re: Band of Thugs + Other Beta changes

    You win, I guess. Crit bonus gain is about equal to Thug's Poison dps so it's... actually being able to reforge away dps mod/bd+ae avoid/less compliated new DU chains (utility/less annoyance/more ae dps) vs shred/strongarm/vital weakness (more rw dps).

    Full right it is, at least for a week or two.

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    Default Re: Band of Thugs + Other Beta changes

    Blame Ishmael lol

    And don't forget that extra Multi attack hit, cuz I know you can hit 1k solo.
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