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    Default Band of Thugs + Other Beta changes

    Anyone on Beta atm that can give the scoop on these? Seems there's not many of us left, and I'm not a serious number cruncher. On top of that, I've heard bad news for us specifically besides Band of Thugs getting boosted somehow. Can anyone give some specifics?

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    Yeah, Thugs is pretty sexy now, particularly for really quick burn fights. And I'll have to do more testing, but right side might be worth going down now. At the least, it's going to be sexy for AE fights since Blinding Dust can be doubled up now.

    Brigs actually got some love from SOE for once. The new double up mechanic is quite tight.

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    Yeah I'm taking right side. Screw doing a lil bit more on single targets, when I can fuck a parse into the dirt with that goddamn megabomb all the while holding up the middle finger to the warlock...
    Nerds, the lot of them

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    I'm actually worried about them nerfing Blinding Dust now---get me away from the forums gah
    Nerds, the lot of them

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    (eyes widen with glee) Hope for the worst, and you will not be disappointed. This turns my whole Norrath upside down. Finally, major incentive to spec down the CB side?
    If they take this away and give us nothing as good in return, we'd better be up in arms about this.

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    Default Re: Band of Thugs + Other Beta changes

    Brigand
    Exacting Venom now deals its damage over 1.5 seconds instead of 9.
    Double Up is now a self buff that lasts for 6 seconds. It instantly re-applies any offensive Combat Arts used while it is active.

    Ok, Exacting Venom might be worth a shot now, but whoa. SIX SECOND Double up?! More than enough to land Cornered, Blinding Dust, and the Big Three (Dispatch/Debilitate/Rake) ?! Looks like I picked a good day to jack my Reuse speed up to 55%. Sweet rape every 38 seconds, here I come!

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    Default Re: Band of Thugs + Other Beta changes

    Pre-changes on my brigand with 250 potency/4000 agi and using calculations assuming 400 base cb, left side is ~191k dps (assuming the raid is doing ~6m dps of types crushing/slashing/piercing) + 20.6k dps ae per target, and right side is ~150k dps (assuming you're parsing ~1.1m without any prestige specced and the beastlord that has TG is comparable to buffratx/zhouyu/primaeval) + 16.5k dps ae per target.


    Post update left side will lose it's aoe dps because Exacting Venom might actually be worth taking, and prestige abilities can double up, so new totals would come to ~205k dps left and 150k dps + 33k dps ae per target right.


    1 target left side wins, 2 targets would still be close, assuming swarm adds right side will win on 3 targets (unless the swarm adds have long respawn timers), 3 targets sustained (no encounters in game currently like this other than Tuzerk/Bouncers, and Tuzerk stoneskins his friends/Bouncers is x2 so who cares) left side would still be slightly better if you maintained 5 stack thug's poison on all mobs, and 5 targets right side would win (unless add respawn is >1 minute).



    Overall they're pretty balanced now imo. If I'm playing my brigand next update I'll definitely have a mirror for pow/dc instead of never paying my house upkeep.
    Last edited by Buffrat; 04-17-2013 at 03:10 PM.

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    Long fight, 8 heroic dummies.

    Not too many real fights that simulate this, but lol anyway. Look at Exacting...shit's even better vs aoe.
    Nerds, the lot of them

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    Gotta love buff's math skills! Also, what happen to Mr. Xarc?:/

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    Default Re: Band of Thugs + Other Beta changes

    I still think I'd rather see our debuff gets love instead of dps, like, those exceeds debuff cap goes to dmg/none-capped buff like in CB. But it seems that instead of making us dirge they decided to making us Assassins lol. Not bad either way.

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