Bruisers in the next expansion - Page 5

Azraël · 07-23-2008, 10:36 AM

I would LOVE an activable stoneskin à la Stone deaf but for physical attacks.

Crabbok · 07-23-2008, 11:39 AM

Yeah an activatable stoneskin would rock.. even if it's just 1 charge with quick re-use.

Uandiiniu · 08-07-2008, 09:24 PM

not sure what I non raiding bruiser should want >< seeing as I rarely get PU groups hehe.

Obiously some better tankingage is needed, like what has been said. I think snap aggro is fine (in my opinion, but then again I just hit 80 w/ fabled)

DPS and utility: I agree that we need more of this.

Other then those mentioned, I think we'd be all set!

Corydonn · 08-08-2008, 10:09 AM

Our DPS and Tankability is fine, You just need to know how to gear for either or something. Our utility could use a bit of work because our raidwide in my opinion is more detrimental than positive as most of the good DPS items out there are proccing hate to add more DPS like the Wicked Wand of Malica and the Signet of Betrayal.

Toldain · 08-22-2008, 01:41 PM

The problem, as I see it, is that the plate tanks have tons of gear, adornments, and AA's that improve their avoidance. Whereas, there is basically nothing that Brawlers can get to improve their mitigation. And raid buffs don't get far enough up the diminishing returns curve to make up the difference.

Philo_Beddoe · 08-22-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Toldain

The problem, as I see it, is that the plate tanks have tons of gear, adornments, and AA's that improve their avoidance. Whereas, there is basically nothing that Brawlers can get to improve their mitigation. And raid buffs don't get far enough up the diminishing returns curve to make up the difference.

And not just the regular old normal type of avoidence that is contested.

Plate tanks can significantly ramp up their uncontested avoidence and in fact against higher con mobs will have more "real" avoicence.

The average instance geared warrior can hit 30% uncontested quite easily, raid gear pushes that up to 40%.

Uncontested avoidence should have never been implemeted in this game.

Notice there is no uncontested mitigation either.

gungo · 08-25-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Philo_Beddoe

And not just the regular old normal type of avoidence that is contested.

Plate tanks can significantly ramp up their uncontested avoidence and in fact against higher con mobs will have more "real" avoicence.

The average instance geared warrior can hit 30% uncontested quite easily, raid gear pushes that up to 40%.

Uncontested avoidence should have never been implemeted in this game.

Notice there is no uncontested mitigation either.

There is damage reduction which is on our mythical and guardian mythical. But mitigation never really had a skill check to begin with

Philo_Beddoe · 08-25-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gungo

There is damage reduction which is on our mythical and guardian mythical. But mitigation never really had a skill check to begin with

Mitigation does not have a skill check like avoidence does, but it is still is not uncontested. Higher con mobs will hit you harder.

Except for the effect on our mythical I am not aware of any uncontested mitigation checks.

And our myth really isnt uncontested mit, just uncontesed damage reduction.

Crabbok · 08-25-2008, 03:45 PM

There are plenty of other % damage reductions. Tribunal has both a blessing and miracle that do this, also there is a quest reward from shard of hate that lets a person intercept 5% of all damage that goes towards the tan(or person of choice).

Corydonn · 08-25-2008, 11:42 PM

Person of choice in the group though, Not raidwide. That item also interupts casters so its pretty meh.