Philo_Beddoe

I know some of you here probably like it.

But 16 seconds of double attacks on 4 enemies every 3 minutes?

This may work great for monks and their massive self haste, but it seems I still do better spamming CA on my bruiser then poping this.
I guess its semi useful when all CA are down, but with 8 points in the agi tree that is pretty rare if you cast your quick reuse stuff early in the fight.

I am not very far into ROK (level 72 atm) and have yet to do a single instance or dungeon in the expansion. But so far I dont think I fought any linked encouters in the entire expansion.

My present "grouping" spec is

4-4-8-6-2 agi

4-4-8-6-2 wis

4-4-8-5 int

I was wondering if it would be better to go

4-4-8-8-2 agi for altruism which i do find useful

4-4-8-8 int for maxed crits and parry

and then go 4-4-8-3 in wis

Because it seems to me parry > defense > the meager hp gain from the wis line

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Azraël

I'm not either impressed by crane flock.
But since everyone is, i ended up thinking it was uber and thought i must be dumb and took it anyway.
But in practice, there is no much multi mob encounters in RoK raiding. So it ends up being a 100% double attack on one mob.
Sure, when in SoH the tank grabs a few mobs at once, i pop it and rejoice. But it happens rarely.
What i always wondered is why nobody likes the STA procs...
Please enlighten me if you have an opinion about this, i'm starting to be sceptic...

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Novusod

I am not impressed by it either. I have a mirror spec'ed for crane flock when I raid Tomb of Thuuga. Since I have never raided past T1 and SoH I don't know if there is any other encounters this is worth using on. It can be useful but in RoK it rarely is.

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Philo_Beddoe

Well my soloing spec is:

4-4-8-8 int (dont find the end ability all that useful in ROK as mobs hit to hard to play around at fighting at that low health, I either pop my heal or FD)

4-4-8-5 agi

4-4-8-8 sta

The agi & int lines are by far better for dps, but the deflection from the sta line is better thenthe +def from the agi line

This is a great spec imo for soloing in ROK as everything is a single mob.

The proc on the sta line is weak compared to the crits from int line or the enhanced reuse timer of the agi line though.

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Crabbok

Crane flock is but a shadow of it's former glory. Back when double attacks could proc everything and even more doubleattacks.... Crane flock was godly in KoS. Many brawlers became attatched to it back then.

Now, Crane flock is mostly just a temp buff for double attack on one mob. But just because there very few linked encounter mobs in this expansion, doesn't mean there won't me alot in the future. Look at RE2 for example. Tank RE2 and tell me that Crane flock didn't help you hold aggro when you had 3 or more mobs on you...... It rocks for encounters.

As for the STA line.... it's trash. Complete garbage. It does not proc as often as it should, and it's damage is weak. Generallly, if you have 8 points in it, your still looking at it doing roughly 1% of your dps, while the proc from the WIS line will do AT LEAST double the damage, even on single target mobs.

Yet another reason to get crane flock... your already down that line anyhow.

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Philo_Beddoe

The proc from the sta line is trash, but the +hp gain from the wis line is also trash

For soloing purposes I found the +deflection from the stamina line better then the wis line proc and hp gain, even if the sta proc is crap. But that is for soloing purposes only.

To be honest my strategy for soloing never revolved around aoe attacks period unless the mobs were super easy.

I did the SBS trials by myself, I just burned down one mob FD, regen up, rinse and repeat. If the mobs hit that hard the the aoe attacks wont be enough to kill them before you die.

I dont raid though, I am in a causual guild and not max level so never once been asked really. I am sure if I ever start raiding I will change my spec around for dps. But as a bruiser I am not holding my breath on that raid guild invite lol.

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Crabbok

Wrong sir, HP gain is for the win. As a soloer, having more HP, means that your self heal will heal you for more, allowing you to fight longer. As grouper (fish?) or raider more HP also means living longer through AoEs. HP is awesome.

If your low level atm, I can understand why you don't appreciate it, because it's percentage based. At max level with good HP, you'll gain alot more from any percentage based upgrade.

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Philo_Beddoe

4% more hitpoints sucks compared to the deflection upgrade from the sta line imo.

But overall the wis line is probably better.

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Azraël

At your level Philo_Beddoe, Deflection is probably better. When it will come to raiding, some more deflection will not save you from an epic VP slap.
On my solo spec i have deflection, screwed the HP, but on the raid setup it's the contrary.
And the end ability of INT only was fun for adrenaline rushes when chaining those quests in JW (repeatables ones from dwarf) cause you could pull 100% melee crit once below 30% and wen stuff was up, you just burned a mob in 4 seconds. But i rarely use it anymore, when i'm 30% or lower in an instance i pop the heal immediatly seeing how hard they beat.
And thanks for the feedback on STA proc. i have it on solo specs since it's on the line but i keep the WIS ones for raiding.

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Crabbok

for Soloing, you may wanna go 48821 WIS. Crane flock is very usefull when soloing, especially when you pull multiple mobs, and this way you maximize your points spent towards Crane Sweep and the proc, rather than the HP.

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