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Old 07-16-2008, 12:53 AM  
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monks will need some loving than :D
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:48 AM  
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Well monks already have better desirability as far as grouping and raiding are concerned and atm bruisers do not have not a single group buff at all. Monks just need some attention to their epic and maybe see the heal time reduced from 3 mins to 2 mins, make tsunami insta cast, and reduce recast on group fd by 50%.

I would love to see if what is said bout bruisers giving raid reuse timer reduction actually being done. I can't find any official statement on this though.
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I'd take a well played bruiser over a mediocre Berserker any day as a back-up tank on any tier raid.
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:34 PM  
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It had better be spell reuse only or its going to be a very unbalancing fix as is now Bruisers have more dps capibility then Monks and something that ups reuse timers is going to widen the gap even more. The monk one is casting haste and I am sorry but that is a unbalanced fix. Monk hardly benifit from their raidwide buff but in that situation bruisers would gain alot due to that buff.
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It had better be spell reuse only or its going to be a very unbalancing fix as is now Bruisers have more dps capibility then Monks and something that ups reuse timers is going to widen the gap even more. The monk one is casting haste and I am sorry but that is a unbalanced fix. Monk hardly benifit from their raidwide buff but in that situation bruisers would gain alot due to that buff.
Monks get cast haste + auto haste, bruisers atm get + CA and + 20% to taunts and evades, and you now want us only to get + reuse, so you want bruisers to have 1 mod, while monks stil lget to keep 2?

Please you have go to be fucking joking me, stop QQing.

Edit : If anything bruisers should almost ALWAYS get more offensive shit then monks, we are the offensive class, monks are not. Deal with it.
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Monks get cast haste + auto haste, bruisers atm get + CA and + 20% to taunts and evades, and you now want us only to get + reuse, so you want bruisers to have 1 mod, while monks stil lget to keep 2?

Please you have go to be fucking joking me, stop QQing.

Edit : If anything bruisers should almost ALWAYS get more offensive shit then monks, we are the offensive class, monks are not. Deal with it.
From what i understand they are replacing the agro managment with the reuse and leaving the plus ca damage. So for a bruiser they gain plus CA and reuse while a monk only gets a lil more haste self buff?? I am sorry but if that is the case then yes its typical SOE overshot knee jerk reaction. If they make it it needs to be a reuse for spells only to be in line with the monk skill
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The monk one is casting haste and I am sorry but that is a unbalanced fix.
Do you realize that Casting speed applies to CAs and abilities also? Just because most CA's are a .5 second cast maybe you haven't noticed.
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From what i understand they are replacing the agro managment with the reuse and leaving the plus ca damage. So for a bruiser they gain plus CA and reuse while a monk only gets a lil more haste self buff?? I am sorry but if that is the case then yes its typical SOE overshot knee jerk reaction. If they make it it needs to be a reuse for spells only to be in line with the monk skill
Don't try to act like your buff is shit now, it's not godly, but it as sure as hell ain't shit.

You got to keep your haste while bruisers lost our DPS mod, so keep that in mind next time you even talk about "balance"

You get the luxury of being almost capped at haste constantly, there is no other class that can do that without outside help, except swashies and maybe rangers ( iirc dun remember specifics on ranger buffs )

And also tell your defiler how shitty your cast haste buff is next time he cast his group ward.
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Do you realize that Casting speed applies to CAs and abilities also? Just because most CA's are a .5 second cast maybe you haven't noticed.
Oh wow my casting time of a ca goes from .5 to .44 of a second that isnt the same as you guys getting your ca back 12% faster or even 6% faster. Raidwide it would be balanced as really the only thing the casting haste benifits is damage spells and heals. A reuse timer would be overpowered compared to that as it would benifit everyone not just the caster. It needs to be spell reuse to be in balance with the monk casting one.
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News flash, it's a raid buff, that means you get your CA's back 12% faster too.

Word of advice, do not throw a class under the bus who benefits everyone.

If you need proof go visit the brigand forums.
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