Cunningham

http://www.eq2flames.com/combat-disc...id-groups.html

This should be forwarded to soe.

If the raid leaders and everyone else can't find us a raid spot( unless mob needs FD or something). I am a fully geared bruiser that has raided everything including avatars. Yet unless a fighter is needed for a class add or FD for loss of agro on mob. We have no hope of being thought of for a great raid. I want in as much as possible and with what we give raid vs others change is needed.

Otherwise I would have to call bruiser a semi needed utility class best for blocking. People need to see, a bruiser with great gear can dps with everyone else and has wonderful survivability.

I am not gonna continue to play a game that has me fighting for one spot against every other fighter in game while we have 3 brigs and god knows how many casters in raid.

Others are right... now is the time to let soe know how we feel....
Incoming expansion and we need some raid love

Crabbok

you have 3 brigs in raid?

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Cunningham

With swipe and dispatch, yes sometimes 3.

Personally I don't care if there are mobs that need more of one class than another but balance out the encounters then please.

BRUISER + RAID = SHINEY AND STATUE CLICKERS (IN ROK)

gungo

Maybe its because I dont feel like raiding trash mobs/named everyday or that couching our monk is on leave finishing up his doctorate, but it seems i am needed alot more then people make out.

although i still think we need a raidwide buff change to encourage guilds to need/want a bruiser on raids.

Right now the game needs to work on encouraging at least up to 4 fighters on raids.

Ideally i wish soe would setup classes so that the following would be an ideal.

Skadowknight, fury, wizard, troub, conjuror, necro
Paladin, warlock, troub2, mystic, inqusitor, swash
bruiser, monk, warden, illus, ranger, brig
Guard, temp, defiler, dirge coercer, assassin

This basically screws 1 fighter still, but its alot better then what we have.
How could this be made possible?
Shadowknight could get:
a group life and power tap
10% per group member hate siphon
deathmarch fixed to proc anytime an npc with hate dies.
a damage proc that works on any successful atk
an encounter reactive debuff like the disease blessing.

Fury could get:
a group base spell damage increase and/or a group damage proc
reduce detriments on vortex. all healers stun heal removed stun.

conjuror and necro-
fixed somehow

bruiser raid wide buff changed to 14.4% reuse and othe rclass fixes
monks peel made into at least 20secs. and strikethrough added 10% accuracy. both brawlers self stun mit buffs stun removed.

warden could get a group melee proc like CoB, primal instinct turned into a group buff. Spores turned into a group buff. duststorms given a # trauma dam reduction, like the bard resist ward.

Just ideas but yea certain classes lack any real use in raids above other classes and thast has needed to be fixed since day 1.

Novusod

He is from Nagafen and I know from playing years on Vox that it is very common on the PvP servers. The guild I am in runs with 3 Brigands, 2 Assassins, 2 coercers, 2 or 3 defilers, 2 Inquisitors, 1 SK, and 1 Bruiser. We have no Monks, Templars, Paladins, Mystics, Swashbucklers, or rangers.

Bruisers get a bit more respect on the PvP servers when most guilds world wide do not use Bruisers at all.

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Philo_Beddoe

The funny thing about that thread is that the same fucking stupid ass trolls that are saying bruisers are uselss in raids and are not including them in their *ideal* set ups are the same fucking stupid trolls who claim the class is fine and just needs some *minor twekaing*.

lol

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Novusod

Their hypocrisy is nothing new. They say "X" class is fine and then when the time comes to make a raid set up that very same class they said is fine is conveniently absent. If Bruisers are fine then why aren't they in the ideal raid set ups?

Their position is nothing but a self serving double standard. The assassins, brigands, guardians don't want the competition because deep down most of them are carebears.

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Philo_Beddoe

Shit its not just raid, on my server there is a huge stigma against bruisers. Only Sk's catch more shit on my server then bruisers.

I have only been invited to 1 RE 2 group. The perception is that we can not tank the zone and that you need more dps and utility then we can provide.

Now granted I have tanked all the RoK instances quite well and usually end up no 1 or 2 on the zone wide due how uber dev fist is on heroic content.

Guards & paladins are well loved on my server.

Brawlers tend to just be a "filler" class in alot of cases.

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guapo1

2 words for you!

BU BYE


No guilds run that for raid set up ,and the people said there optimal idea for a high end dps raid set up was that.Fuck it is so easy to get that many scouts in one raid guild truely get a clue. Wake the fuck up all ready and stop QQ.NO one and i mean no one wants to compete for gear with 6 outhers of the same class.

Jesus you act like 6 year olds that got candy stolen from them.

Zacii

novusod arent you that bruiser from vox with more deaths than kills?

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Originally Posted by Dreww
lol made my self retarded? Everything u say and post is a lie, or just the opposite, shut the fuck up and move out of mommies basement, and as for everyone who u play with, they suck at this game or have no say in it so regardless, u are a lieing sack of pussy shit
Did Dreww just say that everything I say is possibly true or possibly a lie? I think self ownage is more than a possibility