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Old 03-31-2009, 05:17 PM  
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Default The best attacks to lead with in PVP

I find this to be a tough one. During lower level's I would start with our initial knockdown STOMP, then proceed with our second knockdown that does additional damage if used after STOMP. After, I would spam a few heavy attacks and they were dead. This was very effective pre 40.

Now, thing's have changed 50+...

Do you tend to lead with our harder attacks? (our harder punch, our harder knockback, eagle spin followed by dirty punch)?

Maybe lead with a MEZ or INSTILL DOUBT to slow the opponent?

Do you try to change it up depending on the opponent?

The reason this question is so important is mainly due to the lack of PVP related devestating attacks and/or stuns/snares at our disposal in the 50's and 60's compared to other classes like ranger, brig, assassin, wizard, SK (i could go on). We might be good support in larger pvp groups where we can't be singled out and can easily dispense our DPS, but in a smaller setup it can be difficult for a bruiser in PVP unless we are 1 vs 1 against a MELEE CLASS.

Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks guys
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Old 03-31-2009, 06:26 PM  
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Im 80, and DIDN'T actualy pvp much while i was lvling, but here is what i do.

i try to preload knockout and chi, then start with the De buffs first (pressure point etc) from there i try to got from highest to lowest damage, and about halfway through i will use the lyth bracelet for the heal and extra damage. if they are still alive i will use my stone skins (depending on the damage im taking), and by this time (If i was able to use CHI from the beginning) my CA's should be back up for another round of pummeling.

if i find im taking alot of damage early i will try to mez and heal my self while waiting for CA's to come back up....and if i get in the red i will pop my myth.

Im guessing i win about 85-90% of 1v1's (not counting SK's)

when i see an even con SK, i usually hope he doesn't see me, and check my bags to see how much money i am about to drop if he does.
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I usually open with eye rip because it blurs the players screen. What happens next depends on the class. If it is a scout they will die real quick if you use Hundred hands next. Mage you will want to mez after they put up mana shield. Keep hitting the mage even while mezed the mez will not break. Healers you will have to get the jump on or run off the pre heals. Then CHI + Knock Out + bracelet to burn them down. Other fighters require the most in terms of tactics. You won't be killing fighters very quickly and they won't be killing you. So timing your parry and mythical clicky CHI + KO all matter. Also try rescue + FD or Divide and Conquer + FD which is just as effective as parry because they can't hit you. Even the overpowered SK is killable with the right tactics and practice.
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Even the overpowered SK is killable with the right tactics and practice.
WTB clues !!!
I dueled our SK and he ended up out of power, but me too, then he got me since his hp were bouncing from 95% to 100% anytime he hit a spell.
God i fucking hate them
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WTB clues !!!
I dueled our SK and he ended up out of power, but me too, then he got me since his hp were bouncing from 95% to 100% anytime he hit a spell.
God i fucking hate them
Dueling and pvp on the pvp servers are entirely different rulesets. SK heals and attacks are toned down on the pvp servers. Also pvp bruisers have special items you can't get:

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Removes nasty effects such as stone skins, heals, self buffs, reactives, mana shield and even death prevents. I have run very well geared SKs out of power and killed them. I have run healers out of power. When you have played on a pvp server for a while you will learn the SK is not the most dangerous class out there. The class that will kill a well geared and well played bruiser every time is a well geared and well played monk.
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Ok that brings some relief, thanks for the info.
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I think Dev Fist should 1-shot people in PvP.
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Old 04-01-2009, 11:40 AM  
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Default Re: The best attacks to lead with in PVP

ive fought geard about monks, and never really had a problem...sure maybe they all sucked and were just lucky enough to get into high end raids, but none the less ive yet to meet a monk that was unkillable. I have however seen gear out SK's that are just monsters, there regen and reactive heals are just crazy overpowered...

if your on a pvp server and want to use Dev fist on another player, take them to the arena (dont know if pve servers have the arena, ive never played on one). The arena has a compleatly difference rule set, and (unless it was changed) dev fist is a one shot in there.
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:05 PM  
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nice tips, thanks. Didn't realize Eye Rake series blurred their screen in PVP ill be sure to MASTER 1 that skill and use it more often.

Just got Sonic Fist, it's decent to lead with and does some nice intial damage. Anybody recommand the STAMINA line for PVP for the similar skill with knockback or is it better spent elsewhere like AGI and INT? That move is appealling, but mainly for runners...
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