Bruiser Achievements - A Comprehensive Guide - Page 2

Sstingerzz · 05-12-2009, 12:03 AM

Some specs for this line:

Popular DPS spec is
STR 4/5/8/2/2
AGI 4/4/8
WIS 4/4/8
INT 4/4/8

Sstingerzz · 05-12-2009, 12:05 AM

But now you're not meeting the minimum 22 points in Str to be able to take Chi. You still need to make up 3 points.

Crabbok · 05-12-2009, 01:09 AM

Wow I'm out of it today, thanks rofl!

Gosta Dirk · 05-12-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Crabbok

Wow I'm out of it today, thanks rofl!

Newb

Daekan · 05-15-2009, 11:52 PM

Lay off the catnip, bro.

dakster · 07-07-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Crabbok

I like Calming demeanor more than Tranquil Forewarning. For one, it'd always be up, and for 2, it'd also give you a little extra to yoru raidwide if you raid.

Boosting our taunts would only have been worthwile if taunts recieved the super boosts they were going to recieve with the fighter changes.

Crabbok, is this something that you actually tested and tried and came to this conclusion that the increase to our taunts is worthless, or did you just assume it since the general correct consensus is just that taunts are plain worthless and youre better off throwing a CA?
Im just curious, i might try it out just to say I did if you never actually specced into it.

Crabbok · 07-07-2009, 03:06 PM

I never placed AA's into our taunts. I don't feel it's necessary to test. As it stands right now our taunts do around 2K hate. Adding 5 or 10, or even 25% to that number is meaningless. Taunts make you LOOSE hate, unless your casting them because everything else is down.

When I'm attacking (With a minimum of about 85 haste), it's 1 CA, then Autoattack ding, then 1 CA, then AA,CA,AA,CA,AA etc... Now, in order for me to taunt, I have to use that taunt in place of a CA, because of the timing, if I try to do both, I delay the Autoattack swing, which is bad.

So it's either CA, or Taunt. Considering that even our lowest CA's will be critting for over 2K, and will proc 2-3 procs, if not more, your looking at anywhere between 5-10K damage, and if you are tanking, you'll likely have hate mods, so that'll equal over 10K hate.

So taunting for 2K, hell even if it's double'd is still a waste. That is why I have not bothered to test the taunt increase AA.

Gaidal · 08-18-2009, 05:11 PM

Crane Flock

I figured i'd post this here rather than start a new theard, since there are alot of good AA pointers and info already posted here and available for reference.

I'm interested in other bruisers opinions on Crane Flock (brawler tree "wisdom" end-line ability)

Are any of you using this? I used to use it religiously before SOE revamped the STR line and Chi to not suck. I respec'd Chi and never looked back.

My current AA spec is the STR line:
4/4/8/6/2 for Chi

What I miss:
-rotating between Crane Flock and Knockout Combo
-multiple target aoe damage on group encounters

In previous expansions I used to rotate between crane flock and KO. They have the same length recast timers (2min 41sec for me solo with reduced recovery time from other AA's; or shorter depending on my raid group setup etc., etc.). Crane Flock was up one fight, KO was ready to go for the next. Also, i'm posting this from work, but if i remember correctly CoB lasts 17 seconds and Crane Flock lasts 16? So when my dirge threw up CoB i would pop up Crane Flock and auto-attack away. It was a good match.

In zones like WOEx2 I find myself missing this ability. Most of the fights are short little trash mob fights in the halls that only last < 20 seconds. The 100% DA, isn't a big deal w/ so much +DA available on gear now, but I would love to double, MULTIPLE-TARGET,auto-attack the crap out of those little 4 mob groups in the hallways.

For the next fight of course, i would pop KO and both blue AOE's, a couple CA's and that's over too. Rinse and repeat.

There are other zones where the same strat applies. Fast moving zones, with short, multi-mob trash fights where things are dead before I get thru my casting order.

Chi is a +/-8 min recast timer (can't recall it to the exact second sitting here at work, but that is close), and doesn't really do much for my zonewide or fun-ness factor. I just sit there waiting for it to be up while all the fun trash dies.

Maybe i'll toss a STR 4/4/8, WIS 4/4/8/6/2 spec on an AA mirror and equip that before the next WOE run. And let ACT tell the story.

I'm playing around trying to tweak my dps. Love to here some more AA thoughts.

Sincerely yours :: bored-at-work bruiser,
-Gaidal

ps. i still use the INT line - 4/4/8, i know Crabbok has mentioned ditching that altogether and going all the way down STR and WIS, but for now i still need the crits. i have my myth, nightmare wraps, and a bunch of other stuff that doesn't suck.

Daekan · 08-18-2009, 08:39 PM

Certainly better for multiple mob encounters, but I wouldn't say it's better for zone-wide DPS unless you're rolling two specs to swap in and out of depending on zones: one for single-target DPS and another for multi-target DPS. Maybe it's a good idea for a tank spec, but then you'd lose STR's Deflection Chance for WIS's Health increase (was that WIS?).

I prefer to keep my spec focused on single targets since the majority of the boss content is a single encounter. It would put Crane Flock to waste. I would only consider the WIS line for tanking or replacing the INT line when MC becomes abundant.

Bruisers are a flexible species, though. I don't think anyone could knock you as long as you still pummel mobs effectively. I've got cheap AA respec prices, so I'm pretty curious myself.

Sudden

Edit: expanded my thoughts on single-target vs. multi-target.

Crabbok · 08-18-2009, 11:34 PM

Crane flock is awesome and a Must Have if you can afford to ditch the crit line. I am assuming Gaidal, that you have abandoned the AGI line for WIS? I wouldn't advise that, because recast helps you 100% of the time, while Crane Flock line only helps sometimes.