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06-28-2009, 01:08 AM
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Guild: Raid Group 5
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Re: POST GU52 Palace Zonewides
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Originally Posted by Couch
Incorrect.
Uncontested avoidance does affect by mob level. 6% parry is not 6% on mobs that are higher than 80.
The fact is for OP, mit adorn is better for tanking heroic mobs with his current gear.
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Here is a quote from your from the official forums from like a week back clearly showing you still don't understand how avoidance works. You lead the monk forums and can't grasp the basics of avoidance. You never out parsed me I never put my best parses out there for a reason I still have better parses then what is out there even now for the specific reason of when you catch me in a few months time I can drop one thats even higher. Anyways this really has nothing to do with Palace zonewides other then to show you are trying to move the issue of you feeling inferior to me here, if you would like to go over this feel free to remove the private settings on the monk forum or don't address me ever here. It is actually very cowardly you hide behind your mod status like that, but its ok much like the brawler channel is the monk one when monks will want to know how to be good they can use the bruiser forum and ask me here. If you would like to post your zonewide that is 2k less then mine with twice the buffs and waiting between pulls please go ahead so we can all have a laugh at least it would be on topic.
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Originally Posted by Couch
I am the hugest gaping pussy in all of EQ2FLAMES, I parse at the level of a healer because I am multi-tasking by raiding and blowing Gungo, so I guess technically speaking I actually do suck.
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06-28-2009, 01:15 AM
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Character: Couching
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Re: POST GU52 Palace Zonewides
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Originally Posted by Blanka
Here is a quote from your from the official forums from like a week back clearly showing you still don't understand how avoidance works. You lead the monk forums and can't grasp the basics of avoidance. You never out parsed me I never put my best parses out there for a reason I still have better parses then what is out there even now for the specific reason of when you catch me in a few months time I can drop one thats even higher. Anyways this really has nothing to do with Palace zonewides other then to show you are trying to move the issue of you feeling inferior to me here, if you would like to go over this feel free to remove the private settings on the monk forum or don't address me ever here. It is actually very cowardly you hide behind your mod status like that, but its ok much like the brawler channel is the monk one when monks will want to know how to be good they can use the bruiser forum and ask me here. If you would like to post your zonewide that is 2k less then mine with twice the buffs and waiting between pulls please go ahead so we can all have a laugh at least it would be on topic.
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You were wrong on how to calculate uncontested avoidance. Now, you were wrong again on what uncontested avoidance is. Thank you for posting the evidence of how clueless you were of this game.
For palace trash, we never wait for any pull. Stop making up another lie. Also, you have better group setup in your best parse;you have dirge and coercer. Grats for dealing higher parse with better group setup, a lot better raidwide dps and a lot better gear.
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Originally Posted by Blanka
Riposte 17%+Parry 12%+Min Deflection 43.7% = Total Uncontested Avoid 72.7%
Since when did we start running uncontested avoid through the avoid checks jackass? Are you making up new rules now? Uncontested avoid has ALWAYS been the total added up.
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06-28-2009, 01:29 AM
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Guild: Raid Group 5
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Re: POST GU52 Palace Zonewides
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Originally Posted by Couch
You were wrong on how to calculate uncontested avoidance. Now, you were wrong again on what uncontested avoidance is. Thank you for posting the evidence of how clueless you were of this game.
For palace trash, we never wait for any pull. Stop making up another lie. Also, you have better group setup in your best parse;you have dirge and coercer. Grats for dealing higher parse with better group setup, a lot better raidwide dps and a lot better gear.
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Sorry I guessed you just missed me quoting you saying this exactly "Uncontested avoidance does affect by mob level. 6% parry is not 6% on mobs that are higher than 80." Sorry kid but the whole thing about uncontested avoidance is it doesn't matter what the mobs level is, you have it completely opposite. Anyways I am done with you if you want to stop being a coward you can take off the privacy settings on the monk forum, if you respond to this to escalate it further it just proves what a huge coward you are and shows how disrepectful you are to Crabbok. TBH, he should just straight up ban you from here, you have the ability not to cause trouble in his forums by simply growing a spine.
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Originally Posted by Couch
I am the hugest gaping pussy in all of EQ2FLAMES, I parse at the level of a healer because I am multi-tasking by raiding and blowing Gungo, so I guess technically speaking I actually do suck.
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06-28-2009, 02:29 AM
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Character: Gungo
Guild: Elysium
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Re: POST GU52 Palace Zonewides
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Originally Posted by Blanka
You must feel really bad that the special olympic player of brawlers completely owns both brawlers in your guild one of them so bad he banned him from the monk forum because he couldn't take being told he was wrong all the time. You should go back there though this thread is for brawlers that can parse, Crabbok being the top bruiser and me being the top monk the comparisions are relevant and useful to the growth of the brawler class.
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Um actually 90% of the monks on the forum wanted you off is why you got banned. heck they even put up a poll he ignored for a while which had the majority of the people saying to ban you.
And i am sorry you didn't out parse him. Every time he put up a parse that beat you. All you did was roll out the sore vagina excuses. He put up a better palace parse and your comment was that palace parses didn't matter. He puts up a better Gynok fight with worse dps gear and a lower raid zone wide and your comment is it doesnt matter. All you do is make excuses why you suck.
You have never once put up a single useful piece of info on the bruiser boards in fact all you are doing is changing a board that many bruisers felt was very informative into your usual shitfilled forum. If Crabbok realized what a worthless piece of shit you are he would of done what every other brawler mod on the brawler forums did for the last 3 years and banned you.
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06-28-2009, 02:36 AM
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Character: Gungo
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Re: POST GU52 Palace Zonewides
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Originally Posted by Blanka
Sorry I guessed you just missed me quoting you saying this exactly "Uncontested avoidance does affect by mob level. 6% parry is not 6% on mobs that are higher than 80." Sorry kid but the whole thing about uncontested avoidance is it doesn't matter what the mobs level is, you have it completely opposite. Anyways I am done with you if you want to stop being a coward you can take off the privacy settings on the monk forum, if you respond to this to escalate it further it just proves what a huge coward you are and shows how disrepectful you are to Crabbok. TBH, he should just straight up ban you from here, you have the ability not to cause trouble in his forums by simply growing a spine.
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Wrong.. uncontested avoidance is effected by mob level.
I will make this completely easy for a retard liek yourself to understand straight from the patch notes.
"Uncontested avoidance is only modified by mob level and is not a contested roll vs. mob skill."
Another easy way to check is by placing 3% augments on your wrists. You will notice your (parry)avoidance only goes up by 2.7% each, because the augments are not level 80.
Sorry kid but the whole thing about uncontested avoidance is it is not effected by the mob's offensive skill, it has everything to do with level, you have it completely opposite.
You really do make it to easy to show everyone how incompetent you are.
Last edited by gungo; 06-28-2009 at 02:50 AM.
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06-28-2009, 04:07 AM
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Guild: Raid Group 5
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Re: POST GU52 Palace Zonewides
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Originally Posted by gungo
Wrong.. uncontested avoidance is effected by mob level.
I will make this completely easy for a retard liek yourself to understand straight from the patch notes.
"Uncontested avoidance is only modified by mob level and is not a contested roll vs. mob skill."
Another easy way to check is by placing 3% augments on your wrists. You will notice your (parry)avoidance only goes up by 2.7% each, because the augments are not level 80.
Sorry kid but the whole thing about uncontested avoidance is it is not effected by the mob's offensive skill, it has everything to do with level, you have it completely opposite.
You really do make it to easy to show everyone how incompetent you are.
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Wrong again it is pretty sad the conclusions you guys come up with, equip an item that is lvl 80 that has parry on it, according to you that item should up parry by whatever the parry is amirite?
Because it is showing your parry of a level 80 item right? So a level 80 item with 6 parry should according to you read 6 parry on the persona window, it doesn't though hmm I wonder why. I am glad we are getting to talk mechanics here at least it is somewhat more fitting and on topic. The outcome will be the same though me showing both of you how completely wrong you are.
So ok how about this one so it will be blatently obvious to you, take the cloak from RE you know the level 80 one with 3% parry uncontested on it, strip down so you have nothing on like you do when you play house with Couching, you can be the mommy again this time since I am about to make you my bitch. So its a level 80 item right with 3% parry chance on it uncontested, put it on and tell me the increase. Now take it off and put on a wrist item that has the 3% parry but no other parry on it you know the adorn thats not level 80. Did you notice that both of these increased your parry level the exact same amount vs a level 80? Now equip them both at the same time did they both go up by the same amount or did it actually go up by a little less?
But Blanka you ask, I just said the reason why wrist adorns don't increase the listed parry in the persona window by exactly 3% was because the adorns are not level 80 but then you proved that the level doesn't matter by showing me a level 80 item that has 3% uncontested parry doing the EXACT same number. When you figure it out cupcake I can't wait for you to come back and act like you and Couching knew the correct answer the whole time, I'll give you a hint though, it has nothing to do with the level of the adorn.
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Originally Posted by Couch
I am the hugest gaping pussy in all of EQ2FLAMES, I parse at the level of a healer because I am multi-tasking by raiding and blowing Gungo, so I guess technically speaking I actually do suck.
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06-28-2009, 04:19 AM
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Re: POST GU52 Palace Zonewides
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Originally Posted by gungo
Um actually 90% of the monks on the forum wanted you off is why you got banned. heck they even put up a poll he ignored for a while which had the majority of the people saying to ban you.
And i am sorry you didn't out parse him. Every time he put up a parse that beat you. All you did was roll out the sore vagina excuses. He put up a better palace parse and your comment was that palace parses didn't matter. He puts up a better Gynok fight with worse dps gear and a lower raid zone wide and your comment is it doesnt matter. All you do is make excuses why you suck.
You have never once put up a single useful piece of info on the bruiser boards in fact all you are doing is changing a board that many bruisers felt was very informative into your usual shitfilled forum. If Crabbok realized what a worthless piece of shit you are he would of done what every other brawler mod on the brawler forums did for the last 3 years and banned you.
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Only Couching as a monk forum mod banned me for doing what I did in the post above, prove him and you wrong yet another time. Rather then make up stuff just ask Trumak or Sardonis if they ever banned me or even cared to, the answer is no. Crabbok can ban me if he wants I don't really care but I'll be honest with you he knows the value I am to the brawler community as the top monk by a country mile, he and I get along because we can have a conversation and I can tell him he's wrong about something and he doesn't go all crybaby about it. This actually just happened a couple weeks ago when he and I were talking about weapon choice.
Fact is the is eq2flames and if Couchings feelings get hurt for me calling him a retard when he says something completely retarded well I am sorry but he doesn't belong here then.
Enough of this anyways, thanks again for helping me do yet another public service to the brawler community by debunking yet another myth you and couching came up with in your long nights in his bedroom, now please go back to the monk forum where you and Couching can be safe from someone pointing out how wrong you always are.
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Originally Posted by Couch
I am the hugest gaping pussy in all of EQ2FLAMES, I parse at the level of a healer because I am multi-tasking by raiding and blowing Gungo, so I guess technically speaking I actually do suck.
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06-28-2009, 04:47 AM
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Character: Fomka
Guild: Surreal
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Re: POST GU52 Palace Zonewides
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Originally Posted by Blanka
You are a fucking stupid fuck TBH. The parse I linked we were missing people and boxing others, so your best palace clear is 14 minutes which is us missing people, you are a fucking stupid retard.
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lol, what a hypocrite you are. So you bragged about how you killed mishief faster than we did with 17 people (which was mentioned in my original post in wizard thread) and now you are swearing all over the place about how you cleared palace trash with boxing and missing people (without mentioning it before, right) and implying how much better you are. You are full of fail.
PS Crabbok asked to stop that flame spam, so I won't comment here anymore about how stupid you are Blanka.
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06-28-2009, 04:52 AM
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Re: POST GU52 Palace Zonewides
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Originally Posted by Fomka
lol, what a hypocrite you are. So you bragged about how you killed mishief faster than we did with 17 people (which was mentioned in my original post in wizard thread) and now you are swearing all over the place about how you cleared palace trash with boxing and missing people (without mentioning it before, right) and implying how much better you are. You are full of fail.
PS Crabbok asked to stop that flame spam, so I won't comment here anymore about how stupid you are Blanka.
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You were asked to move along, please run off to your wizard thread where the world is laughing at you for overstacking your group and then waiting on palace trash pulls so you can flex your little tiny ruskie.
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Originally Posted by Couch
I am the hugest gaping pussy in all of EQ2FLAMES, I parse at the level of a healer because I am multi-tasking by raiding and blowing Gungo, so I guess technically speaking I actually do suck.
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06-28-2009, 11:39 AM
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Character: Gungo
Guild: Elysium
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Re: POST GU52 Palace Zonewides
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Originally Posted by Blanka
Wrong again it is pretty sad the conclusions you guys come up with, equip an item that is lvl 80 that has parry on it, according to you that item should up parry by whatever the parry is amirite?
Because it is showing your parry of a level 80 item right? So a level 80 item with 6 parry should according to you read 6 parry on the persona window, it doesn't though hmm I wonder why. I am glad we are getting to talk mechanics here at least it is somewhat more fitting and on topic. The outcome will be the same though me showing both of you how completely wrong you are.
So ok how about this one so it will be blatently obvious to you, take the cloak from RE you know the level 80 one with 3% parry uncontested on it, strip down so you have nothing on like you do when you play house with Couching, you can be the mommy again this time since I am about to make you my bitch. So its a level 80 item right with 3% parry chance on it uncontested, put it on and tell me the increase. Now take it off and put on a wrist item that has the 3% parry but no other parry on it you know the adorn thats not level 80. Did you notice that both of these increased your parry level the exact same amount vs a level 80? Now equip them both at the same time did they both go up by the same amount or did it actually go up by a little less?
But Blanka you ask, I just said the reason why wrist adorns don't increase the listed parry in the persona window by exactly 3% was because the adorns are not level 80 but then you proved that the level doesn't matter by showing me a level 80 item that has 3% uncontested parry doing the EXACT same number. When you figure it out cupcake I can't wait for you to come back and act like you and Couching knew the correct answer the whole time, I'll give you a hint though, it has nothing to do with the level of the adorn.
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Yes parry is on a diminishing return as well, (and parry SKILL is not direct parry to the personae you fucking idiot) but did you completely miss the fucking patch note qoute you fucking moron? What I mentioned about the wrist augment had nothing to do with diminishing returns. Take off all your buffs, have no items on but an old wrist with just the parry % augment. With a skill of 400/400 parry and 5% class innate parry and just the augment on a crappy wrist you will see that parry augment will NEVER give 3%.
Look if you are to stupid to understand wtf is going on its ok. But there is no sane person who could even try to argue this. That has been posted ad naseum by the developers. It has been explained several times by them. It is the foundation of block (the first true uncontested avoidance), it is how uncontested deflection is molded, and it was the structure used on item/adornment %. You can't even claim i started this fact. This is how everyone including the developers stated how the game works in the beginning it is basic fucking common knowledge that even crabbok will tell you. I can pull out dozen of qoutes by developers saying the same thing over and over. Seriously you add nothing but completely wrong info on the brawler boards you are a fucking moron.
Here I will make a deal with you if uncontested avoidance is not effected by a mobs level then I will stop posting on the bruiser boards.
If any uncontested avoidance is effected by a mob's level then I want you to never post on the bruiser boards, again. I am that sure i am right and you are wrong, as usual. Put up or shut up, fat ass.
"Uncontested avoidance is only modified by mob level and is not a contested roll vs. mob skill."
Last edited by gungo; 06-28-2009 at 11:51 AM.
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