Can we raid tank? definitly, but what !? - Page 5

Crabbok · 07-02-2009, 12:23 AM

Or you hit 100% deflection, PLUS Inner Focus... and get 3-4 Strikethroughs in a row and still die within the first 2 seconds.

blackle · 07-02-2009, 03:03 AM

i have tank experience of some TSO encounter like YIS stalker, Pota switchmaster, Tomb naga xebok

It's not a problem to keep alive for me.
But there r aggro issue for me to hold the mob as i change some of my DPS gear to Tank gear( such as SoH Miti earring, Soh Miti wrist+2%avoidance, SoH Byzola Miti ring which takes some of my crit/DA away)
Plus i turn my def stance on while tanking which make my hit rate very low ( this issue seems more bigger for Palace mob for me, im not sure but it's my feeling as more ppl OT easily for Palace mob )
and my group setup while tanking is Asn/Def/Temp/Dirge/Coe

i have tried mix stance hit rate improvment is so low. and if i use off stance spike damage inc.
Any idea how could i improve the ability to hold aggro?

Blanka · 07-02-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by blackle

i have tank experience of some TSO encounter like YIS stalker, Pota switchmaster, Tomb naga xebok

It's not a problem to keep alive for me.
But there r aggro issue for me to hold the mob as i change some of my DPS gear to Tank gear( such as SoH Miti earring, Soh Miti wrist+2%avoidance, SoH Byzola Miti ring which takes some of my crit/DA away)
Plus i turn my def stance on while tanking which make my hit rate very low ( this issue seems more bigger for Palace mob for me, im not sure but it's my feeling as more ppl OT easily for Palace mob )
and my group setup while tanking is Asn/Def/Temp/Dirge/Coe

i have tried mix stance hit rate improvment is so low. and if i use off stance spike damage inc.
Any idea how could i improve the ability to hold aggro?

I don't seem to have the same agro problem, with just coercer hate and swash agro transfer when I am OT I really have to hold back on the dps as to not rip agro. I do have issues however with our zerk when he starts dropping his ae positionals and I don't know about it, I'll pop a rescue or w/e rip it back only to lose it a second or two later when his positional ticks again. Best way to avoid this is just get him to let u know when he's doing it so you don't burn your snaps.

AE agro well thats a different story.

Azraël · 07-02-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by blackle

i have tank experience of some TSO encounter like YIS stalker, Pota switchmaster, Tomb naga xebok

It's not a problem to keep alive for me.
But there r aggro issue for me to hold the mob as i change some of my DPS gear to Tank gear( such as SoH Miti earring, Soh Miti wrist+2%avoidance, SoH Byzola Miti ring which takes some of my crit/DA away)
Plus i turn my def stance on while tanking which make my hit rate very low ( this issue seems more bigger for Palace mob for me, im not sure but it's my feeling as more ppl OT easily for Palace mob )
and my group setup while tanking is Asn/Def/Temp/Dirge/Coe

i have tried mix stance hit rate improvment is so low. and if i use off stance spike damage inc.
Any idea how could i improve the ability to hold aggro?

I'll be sincere with you, i have the same problem.
My solution is that i a /t my raid leader immediatly that without skill buffing class (dirge+templar or warden skill buff) and a hate buff (dirge best but coercer or swash or assass can do it too) they shouldn't expect me to keep aggro. Usually if i get only dirge OR tempalr, i stay in semi stance, else i can't touch the fucking mob, not to mention that rescue CAs become a joke at this point.

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Originally Posted by blanka

We'd be so OP if we were immune to strikethrough.

Since when being overpowered was an issue in this game

? I just look at dirge dps and SKs !
Gamebreaking is another problem.

Azraël · 07-02-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Blanka

I do have issues however with our zerk when he starts dropping his ae positionals and I don't know about it, I'll pop a rescue or w/e rip it back only to lose it a second or two later when his positional ticks again.

I do have the same problem, When Zerk is tanking and i have to drag out one mob of the encounter so we can burn it peacefully, it's ping pong with me and zerk. Wtf is that spell ? Insolence?

Crabbok · 07-02-2009, 10:14 AM

I often have a similar problem. Defensive Stance with no warden = about a 60% hit rate for me. It's quite ridiculous. Typically, I'll tank in mid stance so I can at leats hit the mob, but I hate having to use mid because of the hit to avoidance.

Blanka · 07-02-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Crabbok

I often have a similar problem. Defensive Stance with no warden = about a 60% hit rate for me. It's quite ridiculous. Typically, I'll tank in mid stance so I can at leats hit the mob, but I hate having to use mid because of the hit to avoidance.

Sucks to get handed something only to get nerfed a few weeks later, u know SOE anything that makes a brawler good will be nerfed immediately.

Crabbok · 07-02-2009, 12:09 PM

I can see it now...

[Prediction]
Patch Notes -
Brawlers rejoice! Altruism can now target yourself!
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Raid bosses now deal an "Ultimate Strike", which will kill the tank regardless of any save vs death. The chance of an ultimate strike is doubled on brawler tanks.
[/Prediction]

Azraël · 07-02-2009, 03:27 PM

LMFAO

blackle · 07-03-2009, 12:16 AM

LMAO

Thanks all for the tips