Gear degredation being put into place early! - Page 4

gungo · 09-10-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Crabbok

Sure you MIGHT hit harder at 90 than you do at 80, and I hope you do. But the cause for concern is here:

Each level cap increase EQ2(or ANY game to my knowledge) has seen, has not caused gear to decay as you level up. It doesn't need to. People Will automaticlly use the new gear because it is BETTER than the old gear. This system has always worked.

Now if level 90 gear is going to follow that same progression, and loot will be BETTER than lvl 80 gear, there would be absolutely no need for gear decay, (Especially since with this most recent avatar nerf, Sony is willing and able to nerf certain key items they feel are overpowered).

It's logical to conclude that lvl 90 gear will NOT follow the natural progression in gear that we have always seen. I conclude that either lvl 90 gear is going to be "weaker" than lvl 80 gear in an overall sense, or there is some new mechanic in the works that will completely change the game up in a way I cannot forsee.

Its only logical to conclude that for a select few stats. That is the issue. Avatar nerfs only effect reletively few items people use even for the people who normally use avatar gear. And gear degradation only effects most % based effects. The damage rating on weapons, + combat art damage, the upgrading of proc dam, and the way % based effects work on ever increasing static values will ultimately mean that lvl 90 items will be more powerful. Bottom line is every single player in this game will do more dps at 90 then 80 vs lvl 80 and 90 content. So to sit here and say that we are stronger at 80 then 90 is beyond moronic. It is one of the dumbest arguments a person can make. Even if you try to make the statement relative to your current level. You still loose because only a very tiny % of what makes a character stronger is based on the % based effects in gear degradation. This isn't even an argument against gear degradation this is complete horsecrap akin to death panels and healthcare reform.

Samous · 09-10-2009, 05:45 PM

Gear degredation seems in my opinion just devs being lazy instead of being imaginative with the new gear they will be required to create for an expansion. Now we simply make your old gear less effective. Its simple laziness. Not enough planning for the furture went into items in the past...BTC comes to mind..and now its time to make up for it. Why are the classes not truely balanced? after 5 years and why cant I keep my Tradeskill equal in lvl with my Profession? Piss Poor planning. Which Most likely resulted from such an unsuccessful launch and thinking "this maybe our last expansion so make the best items you can think of" completely ignoring the furture of the game. Gear Degredation will trend toward affecting the top end players more then say a mid-geared player at a percent basis.

At any rate sorry for the grammar and spelling errors in a rush to get to raid.

Just started playing a bruiser glad to see you guys atleast have a passion for your class. The knowledge contained in this forum has been most helpful for a zerker/coercer turning bruiser.
-Raz

Daekan · 09-10-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gungo

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Originally Posted by Gage

Wagghhh!!

Seriouslyas Crabbok said everything is relative. Your character will be more powerful at level 90 than it was at level 80 regardless of a few blue stats. If at lvl 90 vs 90 content the fights are harder than level 80 vs 80 then you will be correct, but I find that scenario completely absurd since it requires content harder than it is relative today. It is statistically impossible to be weaker at 90 than we are at 80 with the way the game is made. We will hit harder and have more hitpoints, our dps will go up. In all accounts that means you are stronger. You are basically just bitching like a 10 year old girl who just got her period for the first time, becuase they are going to nerf the ~3 avatar items you are wearing.

Gosta Dirk · 09-11-2009, 04:53 AM

lol nice one Daekan