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Old 04-11-2008, 09:15 PM  
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Well, I don't have the item. The wording of the item means:

1. You cast a nuke/debuff on mob, YOU get 1200 threat.
2. At the same time you also do 230 damage to the mob.

I don't exactly understand what it is about the maintained window that you are referring to about the names. It shows the name of some other player, like the player you're assisting through? Since you have the item, you really should be explaining this to me, cuz I could be completely wrong somewhere!

(You do transfer 17% of your hate through Enraging Demeanor of course, but you are the primary target of the threat portion. Meaning with it up, you get threat every nuke).

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Old 04-14-2008, 08:06 AM  
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The charm places its entire clicky buff on any group member you have targeted. We tested it on a Guardian, Swashy and an SK.

Guardian got about 8-10 (2 resisted) procs off of it in a 2.5 min fight. Cant parse the hate of course, but the damage proc went to them on the parse.

Swashy got 4 (1 resisted) procs off of it in a 1.5 min fight. Swash was tanking an instance zone. Damage proc went to them on the parse.

SK got an insane amount of procs off of it and the damage proc went to them on the parse.

From the testing/parsing we did, the item will proc off of a taunt and the swashys mag/mental/divine debuff. Of course the SK proced alot due to them being primarily spell based.

I would like to add that the SK has in the past had issues holding aggro with the high dps ppl we had in the group. With the wand effect placed on him, I swear the mobs would have had so much hate towards him they woulda stayed there beating on him after he had died.

Based on all of the above, the wands entire clicky effect goes towards the person you have targeted at the time of clicking it.

Its a wicked little item, has acounted for 10% of Bitzi's zw parse.


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Old 04-14-2008, 12:23 PM  
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Wow, that's a lot different than I understood it. Thanks for letting me know! That makes the item a lot more utility-based than I thought, maybe not that great for a non-crusader/mage, but it's something.

A few other items in this zone work like that ( \aITEM -2022007047 -1757769091:Malign Mantle\/a I think is the link) as well, but I didn't realize that also worked that way as well.
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Old 04-14-2008, 02:49 PM  
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I'd also noticed the wand buff can be cast on others. However, I couldn't get it to stick on healers for some reason, just scouts and tanks.

Of course, I'm a greedy one, and didn't leave it on them long enough to parse it like the above posters.

I would have left it on a shammy given the chance though. That would have been uber.
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Old 04-14-2008, 05:36 PM  
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A guildmate has the charm item and he says the proc/taunt is what can be shared while he keeps the casting speed bonus.
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:02 PM  
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\aITEM -612948614 1695522198:[Staff of Unchained Magic]\/a

Just discovered this one from Storms, maybe u wanna add it
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:16 AM  
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Added in that staff, as well as a few Shard of Hate items that I had been waiting on for parsing. The staff does win dps-wise, but of course we lose utility, although weapons are easily switched in and out. Many items in Shard of Hate have negative effects (such as the Wicked Wand of Malice or the Signet of Betrayal) or are otherwise more beneficial in specific situations, and thus must be carefully used. The Wand can be cast on others in your group, and thus is quite flexible, but can be easily used on yourself with hate transfer due to the amounts.

I added a few of the Shard of Hate procs to the Big Proc List (2nd post near the bottom) based on other people's parses or my own where available. Some items, like the Death Chimes, vary by a large margin. For items that are clicky with a limited duration, 3 minutes seems to be the favored recast.

I took off a few items that were near the bottom, some in cases where Shard of Hate items were introduced, but some where other items were fairly easily obtainable and were higher ranked. Most of the t7 avatar loot is gone from the rankings, since they are no longer attainable.

I also moved down or removed several power-proc items on the list. While they are still important, it is very likely that GU45 will greatly reduce their usefulness (assuming our epic, channel, and other power regeneration abilities stay the same). Of course, I'll make further adjustments when the actual effects appear on live.

I also updated with lootdb links for those who are bored and are reading this at work or something.

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Old 04-18-2008, 12:21 PM  
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I heart Revel.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:05 AM  
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Thanks Revel - this is very helpful. I'm trying to get situated as much as possible before the update.
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:11 PM  
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Just an update, Wicked Wand of Malice is now self only (and only 10% hostile casting speed). Hand of Death was also nerfed so that it was taken off the list, it wasn't that great for coercers anyway.
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