SacDaddy

I'll tell you what my coercer is still young. Mid-fifties but he is my newest addiction. I've got 2 other toons at the cap and have raided a majority of the content with them. Wizard being main.

That said, what pisses me off about the class is that I have seen first hand how -everyone- wants an illusionist over a coercer. This aint a cry more post about DPS. I know I'm still young with him but so far I have absolutely no complaints in that dept. I load ACT before I click EQ2 every time and see every fight in real time on my G15 keyboard. If anything, make reactives fire more against epics but that has been discussed already.

No, this post is concerning buffs. Illusi's have Tandem and I assume you all know what it does. What I am suggesting is that we coercers get a proc buff similiar to that, but fires on successful melee hit. Hell, take the damage off of Link and use that. I believe if this was implemented it would go a very long way in making our class viable again in raid forces these days.

Mages want illusi's, melee wants coercers. That's how I believe it should be. Unfortunetely that isnt the case, as all melee wants illusi's too right now.

thx for reading my rant. Pls discuss...

Orodina

The general design philosophy seems to be that illusionist reactives proc on a friendly doing something, coercer on an enemy doing something. The only coercer exception that immediately come to mind is the 'linked pain' proc from the line that includes Empathic Link.

I dunno, they already have a caster/melee preference divide between the troubadors and dirges. A spell like that (perhaps instead of puppetmaster? or possession?) would further push illusionist and coercer into like camps.

Senelin

would that be such a bad thing though?

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Torrent

Yeah, you've pretty much hit at the heart of the issue coercers have right now. Illy's have great buffs and great DPS, coercers have.... charm.

Charm is fun, but you can't use it in groups much and you can't use it in raids at all. So, we need something else to make us desirable.

Our troubles with DPS occur mostly in raids against heavily debuffed mobs, and when the tank has high avoidance. Though a good shaman in a group often can mean a bad parse for me too.

But the buffing imbalance is huge, and really needs to be addressed. The devs need to look at our AA line and spell based buffs and bring it into parity with the other utility classes.

Cyllie

Possession kicks ass for soloing heroics, yea its completely useless in a raid but its nice to be able to go into say KC possess a guardian and use open wound and rampage mixed with the mob's killer auto attack things tend to fall well within the 36 second time and its a hell of alot easier and faster once you know what you are doing then petting something and piecing away at whatever.

You can also play with other heroics, most have little tricks to them that you can use to kill just about anything around them. The soothe from the wisdom line helps alot with possession since its casting range is so short.

And yet one more idea is to send your pet on your target while you are casting possession on a different mob, once the spell is casting you can easily switch targets.

Possession is a very powerful soloing tool and it can speed things up dramatically, i have no complaints on this spell whatsoever. Anyone who picks up a coercer should know they have specialized abilities for soloing and if you dont want them then play another class.

Most raiding guilds want at least once coercer in their guild for the MT group, and since coercers are still fairly rare, especially with all of ones who have now betrayed its pretty simple to get into a decent guild. Most want two.

Coercer have definately been set up defensively for raiding.

The fact that the coercer can solo just about anything the devs haven't given epic immunities as well as the fact that most raids want at least one, tends to lead me to believe there will never be any serious new skills added to the class in the near future, so you might as well stop wishing.

Obsidiann

Oh please.

Xrin

I think I love you.

Seriously, I feel the same way and while I realize that our special spells do nothing for a raid, I use Possession ALL THE TIME. Honestly, being a human and having the Diplomacy spell, I can get in range and Possess things for extra fun while grouping. Heck, I do it even more in PUGs just to scare the crap out of them (the last Golem in CoA is a blast).

I could go on, but I'm sure I just fanned a "flame" already...

Apollodon

this is why things never get fixed

one person uses it to solo
the other uses it for fun spell

dont get me wrong you have found a use for it, go you!

but dont tell people to play another class because they dont like it
and of all the spells a coer gets possession is far from being top of the list that make us great solo'rs