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Old 02-12-2008, 01:53 AM  
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if using this epic means they want us to be in MT grp.. i have never... with the exception of maybe 1 or 2 times.. ever needed to be feeding power to my MT healers..... this is the most retarded weapon .. especially when it comes to the weapon to end all weapons....

if they give wizzy the 10 percent double spell proc.. and the UNGODLY assassin weapon.. we should get a chance to proc a tought snap or something...
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Old 02-12-2008, 02:30 AM  
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I'd prefer STR over WIS as well, if just so I could haul more shit around.
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Old 02-12-2008, 02:54 AM  
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no shit to all the above.... too bad all these complaints fall on deaf ears.
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:41 AM  
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A big problem was that they asked for ideas on this during EoF, when guilds were still battling to maintain power on long avatar fights or Mayongs. I'm glad we didn't get something to do with charm or mez. But, having two power abilities is too much because one is enough, why couldn't it have been just one and then something else?

Also, I noticed the other recently discovered mage mythical, Wizard, had 5 max power, as well. Both of ours seem weak in comparison to the scouts getting two good bonuses in double attack and crit or the fighters getting some form of attack and defense bonus. They should have given all mages two forms of attack bonus as well.

All I'm saying is that there were a lot of other good ideas between all of us that were clearly suggested. Of course some to highlight would to have been:
1. removing volatile magic power requirement
2. various uber buffs, like group +base damage (the bards got these), group-increase buffs or group-increase debuff amount
3. various uber added debuffs, like magical based or even making stuns/stifles last longer without added duration penalty

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Old 02-12-2008, 10:44 AM  
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Absolutely great post Revel.

Its good that someone has made an intellectual analysis breaking down every key ability on the epic. Since Revel did this, he did something that I haven't been seeing by my bretheren coercers.....Optimism and positive feedback. I am sick of some of you consistently bitching about how you think this weapon sucks ass. Just having 8% spell crit alone on a 1H makes it bad ass, and if you want to compare it to other mage weapons, I urge you to delete this toon, and reroll. If you can't handle being a coercer and intellectually (I know..big word for some of you out there) using each obstacle SOE gives us to better yourself, then you shoudn't be one of us.

WHEN LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS....MAKE LEMONADE!!!

There's my 2 cents.

Again, Great post Revel!!!
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:47 PM  
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dude some of the shit that you post makes no sense at all

Why would we compare it to other mages?
because we are mages

what you dont want healers comparing there weapons?
or tanks? because you know crus and braws arent really primary tanks so they shouldnt get weapons that help them tank

we are a mage
we are power management
we are hate whores
we are control masters

thats the 4 things that make up our class, shouldnt our epic support all of those?
instead of 2, power and dps(the crits are nice and reuse)
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Old 02-12-2008, 02:49 PM  
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dude some of the shit that you post makes no sense at all

Why would we compare it to other mages?
because we are mages

what you dont want healers comparing there weapons?
or tanks? because you know crus and braws arent really primary tanks so they shouldnt get weapons that help them tank

we are a mage
we are power management
we are hate whores
we are control masters

thats the 4 things that make up our class, shouldnt our epic support all of those?
instead of 2, power and dps(the crits are nice and reuse)
It supports 3. Mages, Power Management, and Hate Management. Control? The game is entirely balanced around classes having 0 control abilities, so why would they have the epic improve something that isn't even needed for any content.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:01 PM  
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that is true

i was just ranting, because of what the other poster said about comparing it to other mages

question
Would you be happier with the epic if it didnt have the power reduction all together?
i mean it would be weaker vs other epics but it wouldnt have a useless effect
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Old 02-12-2008, 09:11 PM  
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Hate management isn't that important, especially with the additional 4% hate transfer on the Swashy Mythical. Give us something to buff a mage group with..or a scout group, we are truly no longer a MT group class.
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Old 02-13-2008, 01:20 AM  
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The support tank-group support mage class got a tank group-support mythical weapon, doh. From what I hear other classes are happier about it then the Coercers ;O
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