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Old 02-26-2008, 11:36 PM  
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Nail, meet coffin.

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Nail, meet coffin.

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Increased the range of rapidity to 35m
right because this is a revolutionary and amazing change
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right because this is a revolutionary and amazing change
Single target Rapidity just stays on target wherever it went. The mythical group version is like any group buff -> move out of range and you dont have it anymore.
Atm its something like 20-25m. not a lot especially since it benefits melees whilst illu stand at range. With this the group members actually get the benefits.
Not "revolutionary" per se, but meh...
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Single target Rapidity just stays on target wherever it went. The mythical group version is like any group buff -> move out of range and you dont have it anymore.
Atm its something like 20-25m. not a lot especially since it benefits melees whilst illu stand at range. With this the group members actually get the benefits.
Not "revolutionary" per se, but meh...
uh huh, so now that it's working as it should, you're suddenly more pissed off?

how is this a big deal?

(hint: it's not)
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"Nail in the coffin" refers to a "last straw" event, not necessarily something that is revolutionary. It is the culmination of a cumulative process.

It is yet one more improvement to the illusionist mythical weapon that sets it so far ahead of the coercer weapon. You might believe that the coercer weapon is the best thing since sliced bread, but in that you are almost in a singular minority.
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"Nail in the coffin" refers to a "last straw" event, not necessarily something that is revolutionary. It is the culmination of a cumulative process.

It is yet one more improvement to the illusionist mythical weapon that sets it so far ahead of the coercer weapon. You might believe that the coercer weapon is the best thing since sliced bread, but in that you are almost in a singular minority.
Next thing you'll say is OMG DEVITAIZLING STARE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN DEVOURER THOUGHTS OH NOESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Next thing you'll say is OMG DEVITAIZLING STARE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN DEVOURER THOUGHTS OH NOESSSSSSSSSSSSS
With this and your comments in the thread about group power procs, I have to wonder if whatever meds you might be taking are still effective.

We're talking about the mythical weapons here. What are you talking about?
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With this and your comments in the thread about group power procs, I have to wonder if whatever meds you might be taking are still effective.

We're talking about the mythical weapons here. What are you talking about?
You're acting like making the Illusionist Mythical useful for rangers against large-hit-box mobs is a bad thing. So I'm acting entirely like you.

Heres a tip, cry about your problems, not about what happens to other classes.
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When guilds have a choice to make, between taking an illusionist or a coercer, then how this impacts illusionists impacts coercers as well. The classes don't exist in a vacuum. There is a concept of "balance" which involves (theoretically) comparisons between classes.
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When guilds have a choice to make, between taking an illusionist or a coercer, then how this impacts illusionists impacts coercers as well. The classes don't exist in a vacuum. There is a concept of "balance" which involves (theoretically) comparisons between classes.
The only real time the choice is between illusionist and coercer is when only regen is needed.

Otherwise it completely depends on the group they're going in. Mage group is obviously not going to be a tough decision, scout group? again, no real choice, especially if they have their mythical.

But OT or MT group? Have you ever seen an illusionist in either of these groups in a good raid setup?
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