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Old 02-20-2008, 05:14 AM  
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I wish mental dmg for taunts would be a perma group buff and Group manaflow a klicki.
or at least manaflow doesn't give 60% power back which is really extrem awfull when you use the int line in aa.
The porc rate of siren's gift not even notice able lol.
5% power is also good since i can stay a tiny bit longer under 30% power then.
yeah str instead of wis would be nice i can hit for 1.7k instead of 1.6k then rofl

anyway the worst thing on it imo is the power you get back from manaflow. 10% ok 60% not ok
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:52 AM  
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anyway the worst thing on it imo is the power you get back from manaflow. 10% ok 60% not ok
wrong, worst thing on it is Siren's Gift. Yes, the manaflow thing is a dumb ass bug, but when its fixed to work properly it will be fine.

Siren's Gift = shit in a box.
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:45 AM  
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hmm, tbh i don't care about siren's gift it's a 90% useless (even with a good porc rate) thing. porc on hostile and 15% spell crit like other classes would be lovely but we are no dps class, so we never get that change.

If siren's gift is the most awfull porc yup porc wise and effect wise.

But if you use manaflow here and there to help someone or to boost your own power maybe a little it's even more useless. we can't even mana flow here and there once in a while coz the loose of dps afterwards isn't worth it.

thx for ruining int line
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:53 AM  
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I expect good things in gu43...or am I holding onto false hope as usual?
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:09 AM  
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Well i only exepct that mages didn't get nerved to hard with gu43.
I heart that mage as a whole get's nerved
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:31 PM  
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Also worth noting is that the proc is "on a successful spell attack" and this needs to be changed to "on hostile spell". We have a number of debuffs but our mythical epic isn't going to proc on those? That doesn't sound very mythical to me, that sounds treasured.

All in all, from the /claim simpleness for the epic portion of the quest to the poorly considered effects and proc method, the only reasonable conclusion is that whoever designed the item has no idea at all of what it is to be a Coercer.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:36 AM  
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Also worth noting is that the proc is "on a successful spell attack" and this needs to be changed to "on hostile spell". We have a number of debuffs but our mythical epic isn't going to proc on those? That doesn't sound very mythical to me, that sounds treasured.

All in all, from the /claim simpleness for the epic portion of the quest to the poorly considered effects and proc method, the only reasonable conclusion is that whoever designed the item has no idea at all of what it is to be a Coercer.
NO IDEA, none, nil, zero. Aeralik has proved hes a tard (puppetmaster) and Lockeye (possession) has proved hes a tard. I wonder who made our epic? If it was the first numb-nut I wouldnt be suprised that he doesnt know coercers. I liked em when he first started and still does a good job overall, but when it comes to coercers...jesus...no one is home...
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Old 02-22-2008, 03:26 PM  
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NO IDEA, none, nil, zero. Aeralik has proved hes a tard (puppetmaster) and Lockeye (possession) has proved hes a tard. I wonder who made our epic? If it was the first numb-nut I wouldnt be suprised that he doesnt know coercers. I liked em when he first started and still does a good job overall, but when it comes to coercers...jesus...no one is home...
If he reads this thread, I hope he doesn't take your words personally. The entire point was to give viable ideas and show that we're willing to help nudge devs in the right direction. A long shot perhaps, but a worthwhile one I think.
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Old 02-23-2008, 03:50 AM  
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im sorry but i just dont see anyway around the filth that is puppetmaster and possession. do you? really? honestly? they seriously pulled those spells out of their ass. no doubt. and this mythicals effects...jesus, do we REALLY have any trouble keeping power up atm? I dont have my mythical thx to a bugged mob and nexona's full power drain on my group hasnt even effected me yet...

Constructive Feedback/Ideas:
  • 12% chance to cast 10sec immunity to control spells for group members(stun/daze/stifle)
  • 12% chance to cast 15sec casting speed buff for group (15-20%?)
  • 12% chance to cast Enhance:Hostage(or Spell Lash), making it a Direct Dmg Nuke that equals the total damage of up to 5 triggers.
  • 12% chance to cast Enhance:Hostage(or Spell Lash), making it a DoT that ticks in 10sec? that does total damage of up to 5 triggers. (1tick=1trigger)
  • 12% chance to cast Bloodlust, giving the coercer 75% Dbl Atk, melee crit, strikethrough, DPS, haste for 12-15sec?
  • 12% chance to cast Brainfreeze, giving the coercer 100% chance to cast 500-600 mental dmg on a hostile spell attack for 7sec
  • 12% chance to cast Focus, giving the coercers group 15% increase to wards, heals, regen heals for 12sec.
  • 12% chance to cast Rune, giving the coercers group -10% damage on all group members for 12sec.
i can do this all night...better ideas that are actually epic! (OMGWTFZ!? EPIC!?)
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Old 02-23-2008, 04:09 AM  
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If he reads this thread, I hope he doesn't take your words personally. The entire point was to give viable ideas and show that we're willing to help nudge devs in the right direction. A long shot perhaps, but a worthwhile one I think.

Ive tried, ive given feedback, my email address, posted and PM'd telling them id be more than willing to provide AMAZING insight for ideas for the coercer class...ive been one since before DOF and know the class inside and out and im just sick of getting crapped on...but yah, i provided some constructive insight above...hopefully that is seen, feel free to delete my post if you think it will hinder your effort in anyway.
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