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View Poll Results: Where is your place in raid?
MT Group 67 67.00%
OT Group 12 12.00%
another Group 4 4.00%
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:33 PM  
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Just wanted to put in a correction that the dirge increase is 36%, it used to be 42% but that was before the hate nerf. However, most tanks have the avatar bracelet, which gives passive 5%, or 7% for the new version.

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Old 03-01-2008, 04:39 PM  
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Just wanted to put in a correction that the dirge transfer is 36%, it used to be 42% but that was before the hate nerf. However, most tanks have the avatar bracelet, which gives passive 5%, or 7% for the new version.

Ah, yep, you're correct. I haven't had to box my dirge on raids in quite a while. So yes, if your guild hasn't killed an avatar, you can use almost all of your passive hate transfer.

Why does it seem that there's a generally constant trend in terms of - if your raid is cohesive and good, there is less need for a coercer overall, but as your raid quality drops, coercers become more and more worthwhile - more dps due to reactive procs, etc...

It's a pretty screwed up mechanic :P
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:00 AM  
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Coercers- Making Nubs Shine since '07
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:11 AM  
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the only time a coercer is worthwhile in a raid is when they finish the betrayel quest, true story
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:46 AM  
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love those aa mirrors

on anything VP or avatars contested etc i go full heal crits etceteras mininum agi and no int line,

for t-t3 other stuff dps all the way and lately even get into a troub group and parse 3k + which is nice.


thoughtsnap is kinda nice specially when the mt dies and want to give the 2ndary tank a chance to pull agggro (guessing it should remain unspoken hopefully no nerf about it)

any group i am in always has unlimited power and 50% + at the end of most fights while other three groups are struggling to stay above 10%.

everyone in my guld calls me a battery so i guess thats my main job and the mythiak just reinforces that.. but once EVERYONE has their mythicals i really doubt power is going to be an issue for most fights maybe contesteds or trakanon ?
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to say i really feeel "needed" on a raid is wishful thinking. a lot of the better guilds only tend to have one coercer there is probably a reason behind that. everyon knows that ily's have that self group casting buff so i dont; get to do any mezzing of adds either... thats a real shotgun blast to the face...
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Old 03-03-2008, 05:57 PM  
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Just wanted to put in a correction that the dirge transfer is 36%, it used to be 42% but that was before the hate nerf. However, most tanks have the avatar bracelet, which gives passive 5%, or 7% for the new version.
Dirge dont have hate transfer.
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Old 03-05-2008, 02:33 PM  
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I meant hate increase, that's what happens when I'm posting while at work I guess. Edited it so no one gets confused, I guess?

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Old 03-05-2008, 02:45 PM  
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Dirge dont have hate transfer.
Honestly I wish we did! I've always been jealous of Coercers from what they did to Enraging Demeanor.
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Old 03-05-2008, 06:36 PM  
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Honestly I wish we did! I've always been jealous of Coercers from what they did to Enraging Demeanor.
I'm willing to bet they'd sooner give you a transfer than do anything worthwhile with coercers. ;)
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Old 03-07-2008, 04:41 PM  
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Honestly I wish we did! I've always been jealous of Coercers from what they did to Enraging Demeanor.
Well so do I, but we still dont have it
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