Hatcher

just my two cents as I'm only level 41 and don't have very much experience but I found the +subj to be great. As Revel pointed out it decreases the chances of an early break and for someone on Blackburrow that can't buy a frickin group so has to solo all the time it's a godsend.

Obviously for someone higher level there is probably more gear available with +subj to make up for it, thus making the absurd amount of points you have to spend to get it not really worth it but for a young up and comer it's a great thing to have while leveling up. If I had a normal group to run with or we actually had groups on our server I'd respec to something more useful but for soloing I highly recommend it.

Just thought I'd toss that in there since it's probably been years since any of you guys have leveled up.

p.s. Great work on all these FACQ's Revel!

Orienne

I decided to ditch TS and try out Manaward to see if it is something that is worth keeping. The first fight we did was Trakanon so I was able to use this ability two times before he died. From reviewing the heal parse I healed a total of 28k with them, so they are at least proccing in addition to the shammy wards. For some reason I was expecting shaman wards to cause Manaward not to trigger, glad that is not the case.

TS doesn't really seem all that useful to me honestly. There are some newer mobs that are immune to it, and really the only other time to use it would be to prevent a full wipe when the MT goes down. It's very situational at best and mobs resist it a ton. If I do happen to have it land on a mob that I'm not trying to reset, it's just a false sense of security because the big hitters start hitting hard again and since it only lasts 7 seconds, we're right back where we started with the mob taking out the casters.

I've only had the 1 night to test Manaward so far, so I can't say for sure how useful it will really be. Only time will tell if I'll end up keeping it or switching back to TS.

destriel

i believe they do - or at least shaman wards get processed before manaward. i cast it a total of 5 times in pr yesterday (playing mostly) and my zw heal was just over 6k - one full manaward.. which means it expired without warding anything 4 times.

how the hell are you getting 14k manawards? some damn, damn, damn lucky crits?

Orienne

Most likely it crit both times I used it, yeah. The base ward is slightly over 8.5k for me.

valmourn

Totally off topic, here, but it sounds like you should have your alts in an alting guild... I run with different groups every night on my alts...