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Old 03-21-2008, 08:12 PM  
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:12 PM  
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:41 PM  
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Interesting... wonder if they'll do anything else for us?
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:04 AM  
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The new 2 set bonus is amazingly cool but after about 5 deaths the recasting of 22-30 links on everyone (including pets although they dont get the hate redution, the damage should still hit) in the raid but grd/swashy gets really old ... really fast.... The damage return on it was hitting from around 750-1200 each that applies to the coercers damage on parsers. This is a nice big chunk of new DPS.

The 4 set bonus was our old 5 set no real change

The 6 set bonus is BROKEN as is the LIVE 7 set bonus where the coercer gets the casting haste but no one else in the group does.


and the hands are flipping horrid now.. even if they had 99,999,999 incombat power regen they would be horrible. just put 100 spell damage on it and call it a day
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The new 2 set bonus is amazingly cool but after about 5 deaths the recasting of 22-30 links on everyone (including pets although they dont get the hate redution, the damage should still hit) in the raid but grd/swashy gets really old ... really fast.... The damage return on it was hitting from around 750-1200 each that applies to the coercers damage on parsers. This is a nice big chunk of new DPS.

The 4 set bonus was our old 5 set no real change

The 6 set bonus is BROKEN as is the LIVE 7 set bonus where the coercer gets the casting haste but no one else in the group does.


and the hands are flipping horrid now.. even if they had 99,999,999 incombat power regen they would be horrible. just put 100 spell damage on it and call it a day

have you calcuated the %age's of dps via act for that 2 set bonus - i'm curious as to how much dps it would add - i'm assuming a good chunk.
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Old 03-22-2008, 03:21 AM  
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Peaceful link averages 70+ dps per person I put it on on Venril Sathir and certain avatars. On most other normal named, it's about 15-20 dps.

So taking those two extremes, if you put it on 20 people, that's 300-1400 dps on ae'ing mobs.
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I definately applaud the 2 set bonus - it's a nice move. The 4 piece is still an utter joke, especially when I see some of the VP revamped gear is getting new power procs. That simply needs to be changed as we don't need a bonus to a spell that is already made obsolete by others' gear. We need an effect that will augment our already dismal utility and make it useful instead of a bonus like the above - something that somehow improves impetus or enraging at the VERY LEAST. Something to give a little desirability with the low hands we are destined to be dealt. However, the pants now look like something I would infact bid on and wish I had while they sucked for most classes.

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Old 03-22-2008, 07:28 AM  
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The thing that gets me is the insistence on the +10% max power on the robe. We have the +5% max power on the mythical epic weapon. Why do we need so much max power?
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Old 03-22-2008, 09:52 AM  
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Peaceful link averages 70+ dps per person I put it on on Venril Sathir and certain avatars. On most other normal named, it's about 15-20 dps.

So taking those two extremes, if you put it on 20 people, that's 300-1400 dps on ae'ing mobs.
The thing I wonder though...

Is while you might get a dps boost on certain mobs...how much do you lose having to stop your chain of casting to recast it on someone who has died? I mean, there are some avatar fights where the person might actually be out of my range or out of view (hooray retarded geometry), so I'd have to in theory move to recast on him/her, which is just wasted time.

And with some of the gear that's available now, I just wonder how much NEED there is for this. So while you can look at it from the perspective of extra dps...is your tank's aggro so bad that you need to throw hate redux on every person in the raid? I mean, honest question here -- every raid's different, obviously.

I dunno, I could be overthinking this, but I'm just not super-impressed with this change. I never played EQ1, and even I can appreciate that they just added a metric fuckton of tedium to the class.

It just seems like a lazy change. "Oh hey people liked removing concentration for haste, let's go buckwild and remove concentration on CROSS-RAID buffs! Woo!" =P

I know, I know, sorry for shitting in your cheerios.

As a final little note, they're changing the illusionist tandem thingy on that set...and again I wonder if they'll follow suit with the coercer version.
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Or they could do as I mentioned in the past and not drop buff targets upon death.
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