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Old 04-29-2008, 02:45 PM  
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Atm if you use single stun with power drain and mezz the mob before the stun goes of the power drain will break
the mezz.
With lu 45 the single stun will have a termination dmg and would normaly break mezz too, but the stun will not do the termination dmg when the mob is mezzed too before the stun goes off.
termination damage is as stupid/useless as power drains

and would probally mean they will be broken vs epics

everyone has to understand for it to change into something usefull it needs to be on the front end, does damage as the mob is stuned
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Why should I stun a mezzed mob?

Ok.. there could be a few.. naw.. maybe if.. naw.
Sorry, but if I try to mezz something, than I probaly don't stun it.. well, normaly.
Because, if you are patient and really really for sure don't want to lose cause some jackass might take the name, you can pretty much 100% kill any mob that isn't stun/mez immune.

land mez
land stun
Nuke
Land mez before stun wears off

Repeat.
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and actually, the power drain on the long single target stun wasn't breaking mez afaik recently. Think that got changed in 43 or 44. Stuns are not part of my regular DPS rotation in a raid, so this change is looking to be aimed at group/solo.
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If it really is a damage on termination, it's going to depend entirely on how much damage it is. If it's 500ish, it's going to be one of those "meh" spells.

But still, that little extra damage is worth using in Dispel Magic's place, if only to keep chronosiphoning going.
Anything, at this point, is better than powerdrains, and you are ignorant to claim otherwise.


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Old 04-29-2008, 11:03 PM  
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you are stupid to not ask for it on the front end

are you done with name calling now?
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Ad hominem!!!11!!!one!!
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You don't have enough crowd control experience. Go say ten Hail Marys and sin no more.
I realy wonder, how everyone knows how I play, and what let them think, their playstyle ist even better.

If I do some crowd control, than I don't care about my dmg or dps. And if I do some crowd control, I would never let a stun or mess run out for some dmg. But well, seems like I haven't enough crowd control experience like you.

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Because, if you are patient and really really for sure don't want to lose cause some jackass might take the name, you can pretty much 100% kill any mob that isn't stun/mez immune.

land mez
land stun
Nuke
Land mez before stun wears off

Repeat.
Yeah, that's how I kill mobs, not how I keep them mezzed ;-)
But, if I mezz, stun, nuke, mezz, I won't get the extra dmg of the stun, right? So, it's pretty useless if a stuns makes only dmg, when it wears of and the mob isn't mezz. Than it's just a normal stun.

And well I don't mind if my stun makes some dmg at the end, when I cast it on an Epic, to save my tank. And it's ok to know, that the stun won't break my mezz. But I won't start a party about that feature. Because I normaly don't stun a mezzed mob.
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termination damage is as stupid/useless as power drains
I was replying to this statement. No, termination damage is not as stupid, nor as useless as powerdrains.

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you are stupid to not ask for it on the front end

are you done with name calling now?
You really think I'm not going to feedback things that I feel need improvement when this finally hits the test server?

And yes, for now, I am done "name calling".
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But, if I mezz, stun, nuke, mezz, I won't get the extra dmg of the stun, right?
you don't get dmg of stuns today right? so why worry about.
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But well, seems like I haven't enough crowd control experience like you.
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