lyniegenie

Lets not forget about MINDBEND . It does shit in Raid. Someone pls post about it on the official forums.

mwhym

Not everything needs to be changed or modified to be raid useful, lets see how this goes without asking for more and more - before it even happens.

His suggestions for change alone would redefine the class and probably even put it ahead of other mage classes.

I for one want to wait and see these changes first hand and then comment on wether or not more is needed.

Ofcourse on the other hand if a major change is made and its not game breaking its unlikely it will be changed afterwards if ppl are unhappy.

All in all the proposed changes seem to be in the right direction and seem to affect the raid portion of the coercer more than anything else...

Linyen

im with mwhym on this, people asking for EVERY SINGLE SPELL to be revamped are just going to end up upset...personally I like mindbend how it is. Yah puppetmaster sucks but if he puts in what hes proposing then ill be happy as a clam.

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Torrent

Yes, I agree with Linyen. This is an amazing step in the right direction. To make *all three* of our reactives viable nukes in a raid setting, plus possibly Posession, plus revamping our AA's to get a bit more parity there with the illys.

Shoot. The useless puppets can stay put. And, yeah Mindbend is very useful in a group setting. There's no need to touch it. It also doesn't really need AA's devoted to it, but it doesn't need change either.

Illuminator

Wait this reminds me.... where are all those fucks who said a merge would make them pee their pants and leave, but yet re-imagining every other meaningful spell doesn't?

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Flipmode

They shouldnt touch mindbend. Not every spell has to have a raid use. I use that spell a lot solo and in groups. It has it uses which is more than I can say for possession.

Flipmode

I didnt see him even mention puppetmaster. I saw him mention a change to possession. I think that fits the name of the spell too. Coercers can now possess a persons soul and have it do their bidding. Good times.

Flipmode

One more thing to note, I hope you guys are ready for our reactives to get nerfed either in damage or the number of ticks. There is no way they can change the way they trigger to be like Illy prismatic line and leave that amount of tick on the spell. We would surpass Illy DPS by a lot. Prismatic line for Illys is roughly 25-30% of their DPS and that is with 3-5 triggers (with set bonuses).

Mioawara

I am just so happy! I gotta admit the whole DPS thing was bringing me down. I am willing to jump through whatever hoops are required to be good on a raid. Now I feel like extra work will pay off.
This is going to sound vain, but seeing what some of us did with nothing but crap to fling at mobs, I am almost afraid of what we will do with built-in potential...

Flipmode

DPS will be fixed I am sure. I am most interested to see what our buffs turn into. While being in the MT grp is fine, I would like if that wasnt our only role. I would love to see the raid take 2 Illys and 2 Coercers instead of 3 Illys and 1 Coercer.