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04-30-2008, 06:55 PM
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Finally decided to bite the bullet and get AOC
Character: Virulence
Guild: ?? AOC
Server: PvP FFA, dont be a pussy
Posts: 387
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Re: Preview of GU45 charges
When Wayn Brady betrays to Coercer then we will know their time has truly come.
For coercers everywhere...
"Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat"
-Forbes
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Last edited by Virulence; 04-30-2008 at 07:04 PM.
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04-30-2008, 07:08 PM
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Lil Newbie
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Re: Preview of GU45 charges
Illy had there day now its the coercers turn  I just wish they would lock it so they all can not betray back.
I am not getting tooooo flustered till this goes live. I would like one time to outparse someone besides the healers in the raid maybe my day is comming.
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04-30-2008, 07:19 PM
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Coercers are Bananas
Character: Revel
Server: Unrest
Posts: 698
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Re: Preview of GU45 charges
Because the spell's damage amounts for Hostage and Spell Curse are unchanged from their prior mechanics, I doubt it'll go live exactly like this. Even with adjustments, though, this is pretty crazy.
The possessed essence sucks - takes 3 conc, is level 80, and has crappy mit/damage, but it has a use if you're farming low level zones.
Quick summary:
Awesome:
-DPS is pretty much overpowered right now. Even just the change to Absolute Silence is going to give us about 100-150 more dps zonewide. I don't expect the rest to stay the same.
-Coercive Healing is similarly excellent, and clerics get a healing bonus on top of their trigger bonus, so they don't get completely shafted from that portion of the buff.
Good:
-Tash does 3k to all resists (versus 4.5k to mental), but has a 2 minute base reuse (versus 1 minute previously). Alot more useful to the raid overall, but it was also nice having it up every trash mob.
-Manaward is about a 6000 HP ward with a 5 minute base reuse. Unfortunately the rest of the line is still underpowered. At least it makes it a consideration when choosing between Resistance and Mana lines.
-No thoughtstones.
So-so:
-Peaceful Link only applies a position change when target is hit by a melee weapon, not too useful for mages. With no reactive damage, you lose the easy-mode extra dps on certain avatars. Harmonious Link is the same now as well if you don't have the VP set.
-Puppetmaster is 4 pets, and does about 25-35% more damage per pet. But it's basically not a significant change, maybe 20 dps zonewide, tops.
-Dissecting Gaze and Brainshock were unchanged, so they still have power-drain on em.
Crap:
-Possession. I could only think of limited uses solo for this spell, unless we get items/aa that reduce the concentration amount. No way this is useable in raids, nor is it worth it over charm.
Last edited by Revel; 04-30-2008 at 07:57 PM.
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04-30-2008, 07:59 PM
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Visitor
Character: Raethe
Server: Butcherblock
Posts: 50
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Re: Preview of GU45 charges
Quote:
Originally Posted by Virulence
When Wayn Brady betrays to Coercer then we will know their time has truly come.
For coercers everywhere...
"Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat"
-Forbes
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That would make me laugh so much...
On a serious note, I'm still wondering when they come out and admit this is all a joke. 
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04-30-2008, 09:23 PM
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Hear a Dick!
Character: Duressa
Guild: Chaotic Legion
Server: Kithicor
Posts: 148
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Re: Preview of GU45 charges
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinski
Does it matter what it procs off of?
This is going to make Coercers do way more DPS than just about any class. You get Prismatic Adornment * 3. Why do I say that? Illusionists get 5 triggers with their 2-set, you will have 3 from CMind, 8 from Hostage, and 5 from Spell Curse. That's 16 triggers. Not to mention, the 8 trigger Hostage, 10s recast. Dear lord, 10s recast on that? That DPS will be sick, they need to do something because right now just looking at these things tells me, overpowered even more so than Illusionists ever were! You're looking at 4000 DPS just from casting 3 spells.
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Came in here to say pretty much the same thing.
It's hot, but I wouldn't count on these changes passing as is.
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04-30-2008, 10:09 PM
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sarcasm > you
Character: Ironbreaker/Witch Elf
Server: Badlands/Dark Crag
Posts: 2,025
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Re: Preview of GU45 charges
This current change fucks up casting order lol, at least while solo. I even forgot Absolute Silence was damage now. But here's 8 training walls (all I had time for). These were my first 8 fights on Test server, so that's not the best that can be done. I was mostly testing different orders and spells. Also... Convulsions is only from Spell Curse because you cannot cast Hostage on the wall.
STR 4-4-4-8
AGI 4-4-7-8-2
INT 4-6-4-8-2
Efficiency - 2 Focus, 5 Ego, 5 Shock Wave
Resistances - 3 Charm, Dispel, 5 Asylum, 5 Psyche
Mana Line - 5 Mana Flow, 5 Soothing, 5 Mana Shroud, 5 Channeling, Mana Ward
Coercion - 5 Cata Mind, 6 Hostage, 6 Spell, 3 Link
Mana Ward gave 6.9k ward from 11k power.
Oh yeah, then you know those triple ups at City of Mist? Yeah... They die in 20 seconds while rooted. Killed 2 spectres, first one 4.6k, second 5.4k.
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05-01-2008, 12:02 AM
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you look at me and see the Worst of yourself
Character: Vashx
Guild: Redemption/Absolution
Server: Runneye/Nektulos
Posts: 163
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Re: Preview of GU45 charges
possession is weak but should be "fun" i guess, if i get stuck in a non tank group with illy i will have the three concentrations to waste during raid so xtra dps would be nice i assuming maestro and procs... but really i was hoping for MORE its like a CHARM that can;t kill you when it breaks....
i would have liked to have seen maybe a cpoy of the npc like they do now an maybe 3 more hotbar buttons pop up based on what type of mob you possessed (for each concentrtatiion it costs) like maybe ice nova and fire carpet if its a sorcerer or maybe a group buff or soemthing that would be great having bard buffs when no bards logged in.
EVERYTHING ELSE Stamp ok on it  no need to adjust numbers I R happy
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"The Diet Coke of Evil"...
"Just one calorie, not evil enough!"
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05-01-2008, 01:38 AM
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Freakin Sweet
Character: Sacdaddicus
Guild: The Bekwen Alliance
Server: AB
Posts: 717
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Re: Preview of GU45 charges
Having an 80 coercer myself that I enjoy highly , I really look forward to these changes. However, I believe care must be taken to make sure these reactives do not just blow the shit outta everything else dps-wise.
I hope that coercers and illy's become equal in terms of damage output and not the disparity the chanter class has been. If the devs need to take extra time to make sure this happens I really wish they do.
As for the buffs I am excited that we get what seems to be suitable equal counterparts to IA and TC.
I will agree though, the -hate position melee thing wont really work that well if you are one shotted, but I suppose thats what the dispersion gear and prayers are for.
Last edited by SacDaddy; 05-01-2008 at 01:41 AM.
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05-01-2008, 02:18 AM
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sarcasm > you
Character: Ironbreaker/Witch Elf
Server: Badlands/Dark Crag
Posts: 2,025
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Re: Preview of GU45 charges
IT'S ALIVE AND LOOKING FOR REVENGE!

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05-01-2008, 06:32 AM
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Regular
Character: Zauriel
Guild: quit
Server: EQ2
Posts: 806
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Re: Preview of GU45 charges
recasts needs to be increased or dps lowered
and at illuminator shut the fuck you son of a bitch
canel the sub delete your toons just dont come back playing ever you fucking moron
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