Revel

It does beat out the Malign Mantle currently on non-void creatures, although I still recommend the mantle for the occasional fast trash click-burn. The 3 spell crit and 65 spell damage on the mantle are about equal in overall damage than the 2 spell crit and 2 spell crit bonus of the palace cloak (crit bonus has the edge if you have high crit, but if you only have about 75%, then they equal out, unless you have really really low spell damage as well as low crit - in which case you need to shape up!). So basically it comes down to the procs.

On a non-void mob, it still does at least 130-250 dps (depending on how many pieces you wear, the more you have, the higher). On a zonewide if you left malign in the entire time, it usually does only 90 zonewide. Thus the proc makes it win out, but as you see, it is a close call.

Things may change with the new LU, with certain items getting nerfs, so we'll see the results.

Pinnacle

Quick question, hope I'm in the right spot.

Basically my question is this:

As a returning player who just leveled up a coercer(hadn't played since release), I am having a hard time placing a value on one thing over another. I just hit 75 and my concern is that some of the legendary quest rewards from Kylong/Fens are something I may actually need, so I'm basically saving all the remotely interesting gear. I don't know exaclty how much precedence to give subjugation over spell damage over spell crit over hitpoints or resists. Throw in casting speed bonuses, reuse bonuses, etc, and its a little overwhelming trying to make correct gear choices. Could anyone lay out two or three items I could focus on getting as soon as I hit 80, and lay out exactly what my most important priorities should be as far as stats?

Thanks in advance.

Revel

Best thing to work on is the void shard gear, specifically the shoulders. There are several other items from instances that you can obtain; I have recommended at least 1 item per slot that is obtainable from instances/without more than a group on the list.

There's a thread devoted to how to measure damage-related stats to another, although I know it can be overwhelming at first, because there are so many variables. Subjugation gear isn't really focused on in gear choices, because most coercers aren't forced to mez/root/control a huge amount. However, if you find yourself having to do this and resisting, you might want to save the pieces that have larger amonts at least until you can obtain adept 3's (or masters) and pure resistability aids like the void shard shoulders. As far as other effects, I would not worry about it except for dispersion gear, which is viable for soloing.

Cloakntuna

Anybody gotten to play around w/ the Tythus shoulders on Test yet to see how much they proc?

Moley89

Do they stack with the dark orb? similar named proc..

Plasma Amplification in the name, so im guessing they dont.

Revel

They do not stack.

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Parabola

I see that in the hot fixes today that Ra'zhish's Cloak of Flowing Power is having it's proc changed. I think I read at one point that it was going to be a proc like the Preator's Guard. If that's true...3 questions (since I'm stuck at work and can't find out on my own)...

1) Does anyone know what the proc has been changed to exactly?

2) What change, if any, will there be to priority in the list of cloaks?

3) If it is the same proc as the Preator's Guard...does that mean the procs wont stack with each other??

Thanks in advance for the info!!

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Pett

~750 heat damage. Single amount, no range.

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Aeralik my balls.

Revel

The cloak list is still the same, although Wrap of the Void now wins against void creatures. But really should be aiming for the Ferzhul cloak. I really hope they add in some raid cloaks, but maybe they're just off mobs no one has defeated.

I added in new item drops and adjusted slightly the raid options.

Jambox

and it stacks because the cloak proc is called fiery flux, not praetors strike or whatever it is.

at least the cloak still looks really really cool.

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