Krafoogoo

training wall has more hps i believe. But with more hps - your hostage will definitely be way off. I think the training dummy is the closest thing to estimating raid trash mobs - inasmuch as they die quickly.

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Tevesh

Raid mobs don't die in under 10 seconds

Revel

The training wall and the dummy are exactly the same that I recall, in terms of hp. I've killed the wall in 13 seconds before. SoH mobs may go down that fast, but most TSO mobs last at least 25 seconds.

Krafoogoo

ill have to check that out - and wowow - never killed the dummy in 10secs...

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Tevesh

anyway if you need 20 sec to kill it, most likely an average trash in PoAO will last some 45 seconds for your raid