black_magic

Hello all,

I am a long-time hardcore raider of various MMO's, including EQ, WoW, DAoC, and FFXI. I have devoted a great part of my past into the MMORPG community and up until recently I hit a bump in my gaming road.

After taking an extended break from MMOs and gaming altogether, I wanted to try something new and researched EQ2 as my next gaming preference. I invested some time into the trial and the two classes which grabbed my attention the most were, as the title states, Coercer and Defiler.

Now, I leveled both to 20, but before I activate my subscription I wanted more assurance from professionals who have a greater understanding of how to play their class.

I guess what I generally want to know is the most distinguishable aspects of both these classes.

For a Coercer, what I would like to know is:

Are they essentially needed as an important addition to groups/raids? Since I play MMOs for the endgame content, I would like to know more about the coercer before I go through the hassle of leveling one to 80 only to find out I'll have a hard time finding a group or a good guild.

As well as, what main purpose do they serve in group/raiding content?

And last, but most important, do you enjoy your class? Even if it's the most useful class in game by a landslide, if the class is not enjoyable then that defeats the ultimate purpose.


I will post the same thread in the Defiler forum to avoid potentially biased standpoints.

Thank you very much for your time.

Revel

This is a question that may get better answers in the Noob Questions forum, because most players actually play several classes anyway. For example, I have played both a coercer and defiler (among many other classes) for a long time.

Coercers are a useful class, whose role on raids is to provide buffs, power regen, and do dps mainly for a tank-focused group. (While coercers are an enchanter and thus can mez, there's almost no raiding content in which mez is ever used. There are also control effects like stun and etc., but most raid mobs are immune or have an extremely limited duration of 1-2 seconds; thus the roles listed above are the main ones).

Most raids only want 1 coercer, but some guilds can be flexible and use 2. (I'd say it also depends how hardcore raiding you want to do). Most raids can use multiple shaman, although mystics are a bit more well rounded with their buffs. Both classes are fun but coercer is alot less responsiblity. Healers in general require much more care because you have to watch other people's health, sometimes across the entire raid, plus their detrimental buffs, on top of curses, which only priests can cure. Coercers do have to watch power, but they mostly regen passively so while you're playing you're mostly dps'ing without much other responsiblity than getting the buffs on the right people when they die.

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black_magic

Appreciate the feedback good sir.

It surprises me however, that their crowd control techniques would be obsolete in raids because if I recall from EQ1, enchanters were mostly needed and useful for their slow.

destriel

course, revel is bang on, but he didn't mention the fun part. i play a coercer most of the time, and also play a bruiser and an illy, and sometimes play (badly) a mystic and a fury. hands down, coercer is the most fun to play. i have yet to meet someone who doesn't like to play their coercer, and many people who switch to x class to coercer say they love the coercer over their old class...

24 coercer raids go!

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Z3r0

You've also picked two classes that as it turns out, most raids only roll with one of each.

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Wikkan
80 Coercer, Nek

Same1

I have loved playing my coercer from lvl 1 all the way up to 80. I am in fact a utility class that can DPS. I am not just button bashing and throwing nukes. And soloing is just hilarious!