tearec

Don't players need closer to like 115% crit to account for the difficulty of the encounter?

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Revel

Heal crit always crits at 100%. It's damage crit that scaled versus level.

Commando

Ok wait, what you're basically saying is that I, as a "supporter" need to stick to that role so that "healers" can go explore what it's like to DPS? Serious?

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Kehrer

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no that was not what i wanted to say. with "after all we´re still supposed to be supporters" i was trying to be a bit sarcastic cause we do more dps than some dps classes. other than that the first few posts already said it all. really depends on who you group with and how you play the game. do you do a lot of soloing? only raiding? lots of grouping? no pickup grps or lots of pickup groups, etc etc
all that would influence your "ideal" AA choices and would result in different specs.anyways you can always use a mirror for 2 different specs if you want.

but still it brings up another interesting issue. do you want to max your personal dps to put a printout of your highest parse to the pinnwall? or do you want to max grp success? i still see my role as a supporter that can also do massive dps. (btw i believe gear choices, casting orders and understanding of game mechanics do much more for your personal dps than 5 AA points spent in option A or B)

i just think that those extra healcrit still do come in very handy if your healers are not high end. normally not every healer you´ll end up grouping with will be at 100% healcrit specially non raiders. and to the groups succes that extra healing is gonna be much more usefull than for example an extra 50-100dps to your personall dps for sure.
and those healers that can get to 100%healcrit without your buff will surely be able to swap out some crit gear for something else (reuse gear, heal mod, dps gear, resistances, whatever). if nothing else at least your healers gain flexibility in their gear and AA choices which is a good thing too. in my raidforce for example one of my MT-healers swapped some healcrit from AA for some different usefull AA-specifications as she gets above 100% crit with my buff anyways.(later when we all have better gear this might not be necessary any more.)

just one example for a fight where healers will need to dps:
--> byzola fight: healers really need to do damage when the class adds come.

a generall issue i want to whine about is how many people see their classes role too restrictet like "hey i´m a healer i dont need to do any dps at all or why should i bother trying to do dps... i´m a troubadur i only buff people.

another species are those parse junkies that put their personal dps bevore grp or raid succes. i know a coercerer who prefers to dps buff his own pet instead of giving a harmonious link to somebody else who might need it. great success for the raid if his personal dps goes up a bit but some dps class in another grp keeps getting aggro or has to go slower on damage because of the missing buff...

wow. far too long my post already. i guess i´m kinda bored at work today :-)

Kehrer

btw I am at 199 AA so maybe i cant relate to those difficult choices you have with 160 AA anymore :-)

a way i like to look at empatic aura is

1 healer =16% healcrit
2 healers= 32% healcrit
3 healers= 48% healcrit

that translates into TONS of options for your healers. and i dont know of many other ways to create that much healcrit for a grp.

Harowen

The only time I have more than one healer in a group is raiding, and they don't need the healcrit then. During pug's my being there is sufficient for 1 healer to do the job regardless of whether they have 100% healcrit or not.

With str line, the portion of dps that I lose by not being in there meleeing is in the 10-12% range. It's more than a measly 50-100 dps.

Commando

That's a good point, Aule.

I'm at 184 as of yesterday but yea, I guess I know what you mean.
Well, I'm still clueless as to whether to use my remaining points in STR or back into EA after all. /sigh

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Senelin

Matter of taste as it were. If you like to pass off being super helpful you can with EA say, not only do I give the one healer CH, but I give all the healers (even you pally!) a dollop of extra crit! yes a dollop.

Or you can be like most of us and say F U, you don't like that I don't have EA? Why don't you kick me? Yeah, that's what I thought. Who's my bitch? that's right.

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Kehrer

hehehe. thats a nice way to phrase it too :-)

i guess the usefullness of the buff very much depends on the quality of the players and gear available to the raidforce (or grp).

as i just turned 200 AA i dont have to make the choice between those 2 options anymore anyways. i only put the strenght spec on my mirror today as i was too lazy to do it while still collecting AA XP. Also i didnt have the time to try it yet (the parser still doesnt work on my server since the update either)

@ Harowen : how much dps do you make with str line in absolute figures? if you write in percentages that your dps gain is 10%-12% from STR line my uneducated guess is that you dont parse very high as Revels FAQ suggests a potential of around 550-600dps, also stating that 330-400dps should be more realistic on raidmobs. Ddo you make more dps than that with str line? if yes is there any secret to it? :-)

i´d love to hear some more opinions on the potential dps gain through str line.

Kehrer

on trash without AE :-)
for example palace trash