Econometrix

My reference to your use of "procentual" was meant to be taken as a compliment. After reading your post, I found the word listed in an online dictionary. I am a social scientist and work with several colleagues at Erasmus MC (though none of them have previously brought "procentual" to my attention).

Back to the issue at hand... Would I be correct in interpreting Sadari's normalized calculations as indicating that Undying Fury would be slightly inferior to Maestro's Song in a solo context but vastly superior in a raid setting where the coercer would benefit from buffs provided by other raid members?

Harowen

This is conjecture, but it matches up with my experiences.

How I believe proc normalization works:

Your_spell_cast_time / 3.0 seconds = proc_rate_adj
proc_rate_adj * displayed_proc_rate = normalized_proc_rate
(base_spell_cast + base_recovery) / (hasted_spell_cast + hasted_recovery) = multiplier
normalized_proc_rate * multiplier = your_adjusted_proc_rate

For example, a large majority of my spells as a coercer are 1.0s cast time spells and I clear 100% cast haste, so they're at 0.5s. Recovery with 48% recovery haste is adjusted from 0.5s to 0.34s. So my fastest spells complete at 0.84s.

1.0s cast / 3.0s normalized = 1/3
Synergism when cast on me has a 54% proc rate in MT group
54/3 = 18% adjusted proc rate

Fast spells are 1.0s cast + 0.5s recovery = 1.5
Hasted they are 0.5s cast + 0.34 recovery = 0.84
1.5 / 0.84 = 1.79
18% * 1.79 = 32%

For me then this puts the proc rates for various cast length spells (with 100% cast haste) at:
1.0 = 32% (vast majority of the number of spells I actually cast)
1.5 = 49%
2.0 = 67%
3.0 = 102%


When I ballpark and figure approximate number of spells cast (to back out convulsions, spell lash, various dot ticks, etc) I typically come up with about about a 35% proc rate on synergism when it displays 54% for me.

There's probably some other factors that go into it. It's not likely that 100% of shock waves cast actually proc, so I'm either missing something or there may be an upper limit boundary or something.

(Maybe it takes the proc rate on aoe's divided by number of targets? Dunno)

dalmaar

O.o my brain hurts...



I just mash buttons, and my MT group never has to worry about pwr...
MT gets drained occasionally... that's ok cause he's a guardian... if you're using a crusader you're screwed.

MT healers in my group always have pwr, and I hardly ever flow my group.

Minds eye, Mana Cloak, and canabilize thoughts take care of the group.


I yell at Illy's if the flow someone in my group. Pisses me off too. Ecspecially if they've MF the MT.

Seems to work for me, I've been avging 10k in the MT group that's usually number 2 on our raid parse, I fucking hate Rangers.


And if someone is constantly bitching in your raid force about being out of power tell them "Shut the fuck up and start using your pots to cure, and manage your pwr."

IMO there's no reason at all someone with a coercer in the group should be out of pwr.

#1 thing that pisses me off is Illy's MF'ing my group. #2 is Asshats who don't know how to manage thier pwr crying about it in Vent

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Drivenmad (80 Coercer) AB

Same1

Further derailing of this post to figure out whether there is a difference between Percentual and Procentual... I can't find it.. Is it UK/USA English stuff?

I have been extremely busy today so had no time yet to click through Coercer forum in search of the post I was talking about Aule. But then again, I kind of never went through the trouble of calculating it the way you did in your previous post.

Halfway through this post I also recall that Death Chimes was so amazing for Coercer (especially pre-procnerf) due to the whole "uncontested" procentual/percentual chance to proc.

*EDIT: Found the post I was talking about and was completely wrong, my apologies of spreading false rumors! Another big "I learned something today" moment here!