dpsing as coercer=nobrainer?

Arcanis84 · 11-06-2009, 12:35 PM

I quit during RoK and just returned... and I'm sorry but dpsing used to be much more fun during RoK than now. The <20% mana to keep base dmg up was at least something to keep my attention on. And made dpsing at least a bit more tricky especially vs specific encounters. The new reactives are much easier to handle as well, especially vs aoe encounters (don't get me wrong, reactives DID need a change since the previous version disadvantage the coercer vs high avoidance tanks which is absurd afterall).

And it really seems like everyone is playing a coercer now. And everyone is parsing high now, no matter for how long they play their coercer. Don't get me wrong now either, I agree the <20% mana along with the reactives weren't that much of a big deal either but one thing surely didn't occur: players new to this class had no chance to parse high at the very beginning of their career. They at least had to get into all this multi tasking... of managing their own <20% mana with no reg gear while fully dpsing, their reactives, the grps mana, the mezzing etc... multi tasking was part of the uniqueness of this class... and they reduced it by a great amount.

Now I see coercers who just lvled to 80 within a week who never played chanter before... who are parsing at the very max already - nothing but gear, masterspells or max AA could improve their dps... before it took some time until chanter learned how to max dps while fulfilling the support role of the class... this is no longer the case... I could let a monkey press a single macro with one spell rotation in it for the same dps result...

Nerving the proc dmg is just another thing to make this class even easier - occurs for all classes but especially for coercer who have such a high demand on base dmg... proc gear at least gave me another way to customize my gear... taking proc dmg into account to my current base dmg, spell dmg, crit dmg was just another thing to worry...

Commando · 11-06-2009, 03:47 PM

While I see your point, I dare to disagree and call BS, especially on

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Now I see coercers who just lvled to 80 within a week who never played chanter before... who are parsing at the very max already

If you enjoy busting your ass for a mid-center spot on the parse go roll a Bard, ffs.

Pinski · 11-06-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcanis84

Now I see coercers who just lvled to 80 within a week who never played chanter before... who are parsing at the very max already - nothing but gear, masterspells or max AA could improve their dps... before it took some time until chanter learned how to max dps while fulfilling the support role of the class... this is no longer the case... I could let a monkey press a single macro with one spell rotation in it for the same dps result...

Dude, welcome to EQ2. I'm sorry you didn't realize how easy it was to play this game before hand, but now that you know, suck it up.

Arcanis84 · 11-06-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Commando

While I see your point, I dare to disagree and call BS, especially on

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Originally Posted by Arcanis84

Now I see coercers who just lvled to 80 within a week who never played chanter before... who are parsing at the very max already

What's BS on this? Leveling the toon from 1 to 80 is enough to know one single spell rotation required to get the max dps out of this class... might learn a few exceptions every now and then but duh...

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Originally Posted by Commando

If you enjoy busting your ass for a mid-center spot on the parse go roll a Bard, ffs.

I so much prefer busting my ass for some dps over linear nobrain clicking for high dps...

Pinski · 11-06-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcanis84

What's BS on this? Leveling the toon from 1 to 80 is enough to know one single spell rotation required to get the max dps out of any class... might learn a few exceptions every now and then but duh...

Fixed.

Senelin · 11-06-2009, 06:10 PM

People only parse that well on the coercer because of the dearth of available information allowing them to play to max efficiency. This is due in large part to all of us that you're complaining to, since we tend to share and help each other. So fuck off if you don't like what we've built, but it seems to be working pretty good for those of us who don't hate everything.

Perm · 11-06-2009, 06:34 PM

I don't think you know what dearth means.

Jesdyr · 11-06-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Senelin

People only parse that well on the coercer because of the abundance of available information allowing them to play to max efficiency.

FTFY ... and QFE

Arcanis84 · 11-06-2009, 06:56 PM

No, the issue my post is about has nothing to do with the provided information. If you were correct, then any new coercer pre TSO would have parsed high numbers just by reading through this forum, which was not the case. It's about the learning by doing process, which was a requirement of this class in order to master it. This is no longer the case. Reading through the available guides is enough nowadays as it seems for a regular player - which is fairly sad imo.

@Pinski: yes of course but I'm not worried with coercers being an easy class afterall, I'm just upset to see a fairly unique class jumping from challening&fun to nobrain.

Dreww · 11-06-2009, 09:05 PM

fuckin newbie bluebies....