Skaer

Seeing as a taunt takes up almost no casting time, and can easily fit with CA's between auto attacks, there's no reason not to use them. I've never debated that DPS was most of the aggro on a fight, but if you're holding aggro without taunting it's more than likely DPS is slacking, even if you are parsing 2kish.

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Jaraxx

Post any zw of any class give them whatever group you want - completely stack it out and I will post one of my guildies going even higher. My guildies always get stacked groups so it's always fun to keep agro off them.

Really the only time I ever lose it is in the first 3-4 seconds of the fight and Azleya did like 30 something thousand damage to it. Reinforcement for the win.

But I also don't know of any guardian that puts out the same numbers I do.

Not trying to brag here I am just stating facts, and the people here know I'll post parses if I have too. You can then argue and say well they got a stacked group. But they ALWAYS have stacked groups, I roll with 3 dirges 3 illusionist 1 troub 1 Coercer on raids.

But taunts in general are a complete waste for me because I don't even have the power to spare for them.

Jaraxx

I also wanted to add I think Beeglins argument is rather dumb, strike is unique in the way we do our set ups and we just have what works for us. And it does. To say one is better then the other or this is the way you play x class is stupid. I'm sure alot of guilds out there have tanks spamming confront everytime it's up - nothing wrong with that - just different the way we do things.

Pylon

I think you'd be much happier as a zerker jar

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Jaraxx

Lol alot say that but no I wouldn't - I really really really really don't like them. Tower of Stone and Stonesphere are way too clutch to give up for extra dps.

Pylon

But the extra dps, you don't need things like tower of stone yo, they die too quick! =p

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Trumak

Considering the discussion has been about plate tanks thus far I will add some brawler perspective. We have the "advantage" of proccing taunts when we hit instead of when we are hit. But the only time I use taunts is at the beginning of the fight to grab initial snap aggro. Other than that with a proper grp set-up no one pulls aggro from me and I don't use taunts because they are unnecessary for me.

As far as not having them on hotbars I think that is a bit silly.

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Pinski

Okay then.

EH(Sawtooth, Prince, Mistress, Statics), Group: Illusionist, Inquisitor, Conjurer, Warlock, Troubadour, Assassin

2755.73, Illusionist
39872.59, Raid

Not even a fully stacked group , I wish I had a Wizard.

Oh and try to beat Morphling on Sarik the Fang, Group: Warden, Dirge, Templar, Guardian, Defiler, Swashbuckler. He only did 3354.06 , Raid was 49797.44.

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Jaraxx

I was talking to Skaer and his guild not you but none the less impressive parses. I haven't seen our illusionist parse that high, my highest on sarik was over 3.5k tho I'm not going to lie, I had jcaps and I had my normal group of Coercer/Dirge/Swash/Templar so clearly I had it better off then he did. And that was about 1 month ago, I don't think it would change at all or much. Does he use 2hander?

The only guilds that I really have respect for parsing comparison is Npu Disso and Strike. If you want to do some comparisons tho tell me which mobs and when we do it this week I'll post them. Btw not saying there aren't other guilds - just saying I haven't seen enough of them

Btw if Morph sees this i'm off buckler spec and on str/agi spec. Which is a mix of defensive/offensive. I'm interested to see what he parses and what does he use for his spec/weapon.

Jaraxx

O and my condolences to your assassin for being stuck in that group without a dirge =/