Raid tanks don't use taunts? - Page 8

Morphling · 08-20-2007, 06:25 PM

For Sarik, i used

> axe of war
> no Miracle
> 66% mellee crit with axe proc up
> average of 110 ish dps mod with ring and shldr proc up
> 43 haste mod without acceleration strike up

AA setup:

Warrior Tree
> STR: 4,4,8
> AGI: 4,4,8,6,2
> INT: 4,5

Guardian Tree

pnts to get to reinforce, double attack and tower of stone

Widem · 08-20-2007, 06:28 PM

mooooo

Skaer · 08-20-2007, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaraxx

I was wondering were you went. I was referring to defensive utility. Guardians have way too many clutch spells. Tower of Stone, Stonesphere, Sentry Watch, Reinforcement. Those 4 abilities keep me a Guardian.

Berserkers have some cool things as well but in my opinion none compare to the four I have for being a guardian.

I stepped out. You were right, I was wrong. I underestimated the DPS full Avatar geared tanks were doing. However, most raid tanks aren't doing that much DPS as to hold aggro without taunts.

Berserker utility is more geared to DPS and increasing group DPS. Like a dirge without CoB/Bonus crits/tomb's calm. But, with the ability to tank and DPS rather well.

razieh · 08-20-2007, 06:51 PM

I see your point Jaraxx, but wardens are nice for learning encounters thats pretty much it. Even then they are fairly useless but nice to have.

Jaraxx · 08-20-2007, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaraxx

Calaglin you've done a horrible job keeping me entertained before work you are obviously distracted how about I take you to dinner/movies - how does friday sound? I actually don't have to leave until 5:20

Is that a yes then? I don't see a response.

Jaraxx · 08-20-2007, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morphling

For Sarik, i used

> axe of war
> no Miracle
> 66% mellee crit with axe proc up
> average of 110 ish dps mod with ring and shldr proc up
> 43 haste mod without acceleration strike up

AA setup:

Warrior Tree
> STR: 4,4,8
> AGI: 4,4,8,6,2
> INT: 4,5

Guardian Tree

pnts to get to reinforce, double attack and tower of stone

I actually just did a little respecing here I am currently

4 4 8 4 str (because my coercer has missed a few raids recently and I want to cap out my hategain without her)

4 4 8 6 2 agi
4 1 int

5 overpower 5 vindictive strike 5 flay 5 compression 1 double attack
3 command 3 wall of force 5 plant 2 unyielding 2 stonesphere 5 tower of stone 1 block

I'm testing out a little of the int line here. I want to see how it works =p

Davngr · 08-21-2007, 10:50 PM

taunts are dps

pagansaint · 08-22-2007, 03:43 AM

Davngr you must be a man of 4 or 5 thousand years with those kind of wise words.

boli · 08-22-2007, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skaer

I stepped out. You were right, I was wrong. I underestimated the DPS full Avatar geared tanks were doing. However, most raid tanks aren't doing that much DPS as to hold aggro without taunts.

Its not just "full avatar geared"; I'm in EoF legendary, claymore and KoS fabled and hell I can hold agro by dps alone; if I'm in offensive stance. I've had my amends bitch die right off the pull before sigil down and just stepped up dps and never lost agro.

If you make the right choices for gear/adorns and AA dps is your primary source of hate. I can't think of the last time I lost hate and used a taunt to get it back... no you just hit a big CA/Spell and they come straight back - more efficient than standing there taunting like a wally.

Yes I'm a pally but the principle is the same.

rorion · 08-22-2007, 01:47 PM

Boli what is your group setup for pally dps? and what kind of raid DPS are you talking about holding aggro with no ammends target?