Why are backed-off pets permitted non-combat regen? - Page 2

Iluk · 12-25-2007, 10:39 AM

So yeah... bubble is in no way a pet deaggro...

Only an aoe immunity.

A pet will clear its hate list... the mob will still hate the pet. If your raid attacks a mob, and you send the pet in, it engages, and then you tell it to back off, then the raid wipes... You WILL die, if you don't have FD.

Also,
Having pet mana regen is quite balanced, due to the fact that they don't get power items, don't have any kind of health for power spells, and they are constantly chain casting... If you were CONSTANTLY chain casting, you would run out of power also. Since smart players use mana regen stuff, they don't run out of power, hence the reasoning behind them not being able to stop attacking and leave combat for more regen.

bigron · 12-25-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

While using my coercer to farm all my income in T7, I used back-off regen to bring many bad solo fights well past their "due date". Whether I used it or not doesn't make the mechanic less uneven.

Due date?
WTF does this even mean?

Not sure how pets being able to regen power while not DPSing is a uneven mechanic.And if really want to split hairs being able to keep a mob perma rooted or MORE SO MULTIPLE MOBS MEZZED is preety overpowered compared to pet regening while doing jack squat.

Can I leave combat too whenever I want?
Yes this mechanic has been in game forever......../yell

A pet independently accumulates hate, independently parses, casts when the player says to cast and does nothing when the player says to do nothing. They are an extension of the player.

We cant tel;l a pet to use a shard/mana stone/potions so so they regen power in the way of doing nothing
Next topic coming soon: Using pet commands while stationary on a wall.

And this does what? You cant help the pet since on the wall.Encounter breaks if pet dies since your on the wall

You have some issue with summoners?
Little jelous/Butt hurt for some reason or another.Who the fuck cares.Dont try to make a issue where there isnt one.

IN SHORT DONT BE A FUCKING IDIOT.

bigron · 12-25-2007, 12:50 PM

Also for some that dont seem to clear on pet agro mechanics.

When back pet off its still has hate and aggro.
There is no ability that will drop a pet from a mobs hate list.

The only way to Wipe a pets hate from a mob is for the pet to die and all the hate the pet generated dumps onto you .

The amount of hate a pet generates is not 50/50 split from you as a charector.A pet generates its own hate and has its own place on a hate list of the mob.So aggro dumps/deagro ability's can be placed onto a pet.

Pets get no socia/proxl aggro as a being and are classified indifferent to everything in game......except for that buggy time a year ago with the suicidial ghost miners in sol eye.

Mobs that social to another of there kind being attacked will agro a pet that is attacking one of there own because thats a true social mechanic applied to everything in game.

Hope this clears up some things.

Orochan · 12-25-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

A pet independently accumulates hate, independently parses, casts when the player says to cast and does nothing when the player says to do nothing. They are an extension of the player.

Next topic coming soon: Using pet commands while stationary on a wall.

Tell me when a pet can parse 2k +, tell me when a pet can tank epic mobs ( with out planeshift ) Tell me when a pet can heal just like a defiler can for MT groups. Tell me when scout pets are able to use any type of poison actual scouts use. Tell me when a pet can wear armor just like players.

And pets do not independently parse or accumulate hate either, both actions require a command from the player. Pets if left on their own, do absolutely nothing.

So again, since when do pets = players?

Next topic : why Illuminator has become such a bitch!

Traxor · 12-27-2007, 11:46 PM

If anyone is saying that backing off their pet .... so it will do more damage.... is uping their dps.... Hear is a reality check. UR SOFA KING RE TOD EDD.

A conj probably has Bubble...

A necro if he doesnt have blood pact, and his pet is "Backed off" inside AE range. It still dies. No advatage what so ever. Who cares /nxt