Xavion

Omg...do not insult Swashies like that please!

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Traxor

I saw mt guards duel wield till they had to raid VP.

And hell no crusaders shouldn't get to duel wield. They are the only class that can effectively use 2handers

TANGARTH

I know this game has many problems, but crusaders need a bump. Guards were already the best, and are now beyond OP. Zerkers can still dps well, and brawlers still fit in their niche well. Crusaders are really really at the short end of the stick right now.

but I still love my sk :D

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Traxor

haha, crusaders can get in line behind monks. We got to the front of the line and SoE decided to be Indian givers. What fags.

Zormik

you gotta be joking me. Pallies are THE easymode aggrotank. They can hold aggro from anything anywhere they want. Better then any other tank. They have utlity and now they also want to dps like a zerk/guardian?

Sorry but this sounds very silly to me. A decent pally can already dps quite nice. What's next, you guys want tos and stone sphere aswell?

Seriously if you look at the top guilds. They all want a pally for avatars. There's no tank that can handle adds and waves of adds like a paladin can. You guys are after guardians already the most desired tanks. No need to make pallies overpowered like guardians

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Fonil

My pally/sk friends dps 500 less dps MAX and they have a bit more raid utility than I i would kill for something like that.

P.S Combat regen ftw....

Vulkan

Am I missing something here? Why do pallies use a 2h more effective than other fighters? Crusaders have a dmg increase vs other fighters that I dont know about?

Deule

This is exactly the retarded argument I knew would pop up. What about crusaders allows them to use a 2h effectively...its not like we get some kind of AA line that gives us DA with a 2h weapon. The only reason crusaders supposedly use a 2h effectively is because we are forced to. It is the only way we can optimize our DPS. There are other classes on those 2h that will not touch them for the simple reason that DW > 2h everytime for DPS. Not to mention that switching out of DW spec to a 1h+shield takes less time than switching from a 2h to 1h+shield.

The argument about never seeing a warrior DW is retarded. Warriors will DW to clear trash or just to maximize DPS if they know what they are doing. However, lets not forget that when they are not DW since they have the all powerful buckler AA line and can easily reach 100% DA it is like they are DW while still being more defensive.

I love the post that the one individual made about Paladins being so wanted...did you even read my OP? I am a SK. SK's are offensive tanks and should carry DPS like a Bezerker...actually I will argue more than a Bezerker for the simple fact we do not get the temp buffs that they do.

SOE needs to wake up and fix this disparity. It is no different than when Crusaders originally could not use any type of ranged item and yet warriors could. The disparity back than just got wider and wider as the levels went up until finally SOE allowed crusaders the use of a symbol in their ranged slot, and than realizing that this was still not as good because bows were much better for pulling and on the move, they gave Crusaders the ability to use bows. DW is no different. The disparity is becoming larger and larger between Crusaders and the other Melee classes.

For the argument that SK's are casters wearing plate...than how come I have to rely on half of my DPS coming from Melee? And yes I do maximize my DPS. Spell damage is a joke to cap and spell crits we already sit high at and yet spells make up half of our DPS still. Maybe the whole function is wrong and SK's need a huge boost to their spell DPS than? A complete over-haul? Oh, and don't get me started on how bad gear is for Crusaders. You know that item that adds +CA and +melee crit, well we get half the increase that warriors will see because we are split 50/50 melee/spell. Same is true with +spell damage and +spell crit. However, what do you see on items, one way or the other...so being in the middle we always gain less than warriors from that same piece. Now that is fucked up...hell even the new player crafted shields which are pretty nice really bone us in the ass. Why do they make them proc just off of CA's? Why not make em proc off of CA's and spells?

There is so much disparity on this that it is not funny. Adding DW to Crusaders would only be the first of many steps needed to fix this disparity. And for all of you out there I am not just talking Paladin, I am coming at you from a SK PoV.

Kall

This same exact argument applies to Bards as well. The problem is that Warriors do too much DPS, not that Crusaders do too little.

Denubis

lol well put

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