The fix to crusaders being left in the dust for DPS... - Page 35

guapo1 · 04-29-2008, 11:59 PM

Your right it is a joke place blame where it belongs and stop trying to ask for outher class features and powers. While at same time pointing out outher classes should be nerfed or there items revamped. To fix the fact that soe didnt balance you out correctly inline with the game.

Thats all you and some outhers have done.Come up with actuall features that apply to your class rather then trying to steal from outhers.All fighters where made different if wanted the same then why the fuck have 6 fighter types.

Duel wield/ability simular to tos/Da/Spell da.I mean wtf increase your own features not steal from outhers.

I seen this shit happen in eq1 where paladins ,and sks fucked up the balance feature there with warriors.Face the simple truth your not going to be top wanted mt for raids .You know several sks on this thread had great ideas then i look at the idiots like you deule and some outhers.I can see why your dps is low.You lack INT.

guapo1 · 04-30-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Deule

Guard Power!!!!

All the tanks had the resists on their taunts fucked with with EoF, and the classes getting their hate transferred lowered affected all the tanks. You make it sound like any other tank can jump in the MT seat without hate transfers and be fine....that is so far from the truth it is not even funny.

Duele you say i have no idea?.Any of the outher tanks would do alot better then a guardian with out fucking hate transfer.Are you that much of an idiot to understand that.Take hate transfer out of the configuration deule.I have been playing since beta i have raided all expansion tiers.Trust me deule i do have quite a bit of knowledge of guardian class.Guardian is all i played for 4 years striaght.

Guardians lowest on dps out of all outher fighters would not hold agro.Spell dmg gives more hate,high melee dps is more hate. Where do guards fit in if lowest on melee ,and no spell dps.

Dead last where you are now.So yes the outher fighters would do better in mt role. Becuase there less dependent on outhers hate transfer.Shit guardian moderate doesnt even work like a paladins amends.Our moderate does not actually give us a boost on holding agro like there amends does.

Also, you need to go get your Mythical before you start talking about how it is on par with what it should be dps wise. I will agree that your fabled is meh, hell everybody's fabled is meh and SoD is hands down a better tanking sword. But, where shit really went out of whack is when Mythicals were disco'd and the Guards allowed them to parse pretty close to 4k consistently while being completely defensive.

Yes deule and you got wizards out there parseing fucking 7 to 8 k zw.So let guards have what for a zw parse?.What be a good # for you deule let me guess 1200.

Soe needs to increase the outher classes dps and that is it.Hell ill even go as far as saying increase sks surivability a little bit more so they can coop better.Just stop asking for outher features you know does not apply to your class.If this shit was reversed you would feel the same fucking way.Soe fucked with us enough.You are not alone.

Ower · 04-30-2008, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Deule

Guard Power!!!!

Seriously both of you are fucking annoying as hell. And Guapo the more you post the more retarded you sound. You obviously have no clue on how this game works and specifically on how the other classes are played.

All the tanks had the resists on their taunts fucked with with EoF, and the classes getting their hate transferred lowered affected all the tanks. You make it sound like any other tank can jump in the MT seat without hate transfers and be fine....that is so far from the truth it is not even funny.

Also, you need to go get your Mythical before you start talking about how it is on par with what it should be dps wise. I will agree that your fabled is meh, hell everybody's fabled is meh and SoD is hands down a better tanking sword. But, where shit really went out of whack is when Mythicals were disco'd and the Guards allowed them to parse pretty close to 4k consistently while being completely defensive.

Yes, yes...we all know how DPS is better than taunts for agro atm...but don't you think that that could have been remedied with Mythicals instead of made worse? Can you even think outside of the box a little bit?

This thread is turning into a joke because a couple guards that have no clue really on what they are talking about are trying to give their side on a class that has fallen deep into the shadows.

You are a fucking joke deule. The one living in a fucking box here is you. And 4k consistently? HA! Sometimes we do parse well.. but do we do it on everything in this fucking game? Did you know that even when they fixed the hit rates the melee tanks suck balls on holding aggro on 85+ ? Take a look at all the fucking gear out there... you could easy boost your fucking Avoidance. And pallys would own the fucking table with block since there AA is like it is. And the leggings and BP with stoneskin on them crusader/cleric only... There is nice fucking gear out there for crusaders aswell. Sure SK:s still need some work. Pallys dont. They work fine as they are. And the block items out there... and traks fucking shield.

and no clue? you are one of the posters here that have no fucking clue on anything. All you do is cry cry cry. Get a fucking clue...

Mahgnus · 04-30-2008, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ower

There is nice fucking gear out there for crusaders aswell.

Plz show me this "nice" crusader gear

Here let me answer this for you, b/c I know your goin to say it is out there but I don't feel like lookin for the links.

EverQuest II Players

Here is my eq2players profile, Im easly one of the better geared crusaders in the game atm. Plz point out to me the "crusader gear", most of the gear I'm fuckin wearing is tailored around warriors b/c there is dick for crusaders in tank gear itemization.

Sure SK:s still need some work. Pallys dont. They work fine as they are. And the block items out there... and traks fucking shield.

I srsly hope you are implying that Pallies gain more benefit from block then other tanks do b/c of our block mastery. B/c if you had any clue what you where flappin your cocksucker about you would know it only increases our shield effectiveness by 24%

just sayin... /shrug just sayin

Ower · 04-30-2008, 05:59 AM

So you are saying that pallys dont get more block than other tanks? They do... and if you would know you class anything you would know this shit. The list with nice block gear is inc.. and other stuff that are nice for crusaders. And dont give me any BS about that warriors can use some of the items aswell.. As you might know guards are close or on the cap on avoidance atm. So dont need it. and how does block work then your fucktard???? the better fucking shield the more block. Get a fucking clue.

Ower · 04-30-2008, 06:17 AM

\aITEM -566742607 -57687960:Barbute of Curling Horns\/a

\aITEM 64067343 668363627:Chestplate of Solid Malice\/a

\aITEM -796368618 -2109444045:Krakenshell Wargreaves\/a

\aITEM 723953474 -2115853844:[Ring of Scale General's Cloak]\/a

\aITEM -1518653832 -1365649098:Stormbringer Bulwark of the Unstoppable\/a

\aITEM -1111814763 1977405636:Demonguard's Breastplate\/a

\aITEM -1529693601 1187578533:Breastplate of Deflection\/a

\aITEM 2083460635 -840923615:Dreadscale Greaves\/a

\aITEM 835047042 1044179888:[Death Chimes]\/a

i can keep the shit coming if you want to... Get the fucking gear and you will see that you will live longer.

Mahgnus · 04-30-2008, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ower

So you are saying that pallys dont get more block than other tanks?

No, you illeterate fuck. I stated "I srsly hope you are implying that Pallies gain more benefit from block then other tanks do b/c of our block mastery. B/c if you had any clue what you where flappin your cocksucker about you would know it only increases our shield effectiveness by 24%" Now that I have stated it for a second time, It might sink in.

Your reading comprehension is the suck. Never once did I say pallies have less block then other tanks. Again you have posted for a second time that crusaders gain more advantage from block then other tanks when in fact for the second time you are wrong. All 4 tanks that can use a shield recieve the the same amount of benefit from + block items.

If you srsly think your goin to enlighten me on a list of block gear... go fuck yourself

Ower · 04-30-2008, 06:39 AM

i said that pallys get more block than other tanks.. And they do. And yeah more than pallys can use some of the gear a listed. Let me put it this way... It feels so fucking good to be over the cap in avoidance... wait a min... you cant... Get a fucking clue what you are talking about. Try and use your brain at some point?

Mahgnus · 04-30-2008, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ower

\aITEM -566742607 -57687960:Barbute of Curling Horns\/a
Effects warriors the same as crusaders

\aITEM 64067343 668363627:Chestplate of Solid Malice\/a
Effects warriors the same as crusaders

\aITEM -796368618 -2109444045:Krakenshell Wargreaves\/a
Effects warriors the same as crusaders

\aITEM 723953474 -2115853844:[Ring of Scale General's Cloak]\/a
Effects warriors the same as crusaders

\aITEM -1518653832 -1365649098:Stormbringer Bulwark of the
Unstoppable\/a Effects warriors the same as crusaders

\aITEM -1111814763 1977405636:Demonguard's Breastplate\/a
Subclass set item which warrios helm is the equivalent

\aITEM -1529693601 1187578533:Breastplate of Deflection\/a
LOL at this

\aITEM 2083460635 -840923615:Dreadscale Greaves\/a
Again, LOL

\aITEM 835047042 1044179888:[Death Chimes]\/a
A mage item, the fact that you added this to you "list" shows you know dick about crusader tank gear.

i can keep the shit coming if you want to... Get the fucking gear and you will see that you will live longer.

Your guild must be lucky to have a knowledgeable wanker such as yourself. What guild was that again? So that I may check out your gear since your are obviously the foremost expert on tanking gear.

I'm not sayin... I'm just sayin \aITEM 835047042 1044179888:[Death Chimes]\/a

Ower · 04-30-2008, 07:02 AM

you own yourself with your first post... Let me put it out for ya. IF YOU ARE ON THE CAP OF AVOIDANCE YOU DONT GAIN ANYMORE. And i have said it. you can easy get your avoidance up with this gear.

So what you are asking for Is

1. Top avoidance as a guard.
2. Top hate gain with all your fucking hate tools.
3. Even more dps.

What is it you dont understand? And for \aITEM 835047042 1044179888:[Death Chimes]\/a Yes That item is nice for mages and i would think they would get it first... But lmao so you dont think this item is nice for a crusader????? should we ask all the other crusaders and see what they think about it? That item is very nice for any spell casting classes.