Balanced classes = Normalized DPS - Page 6

SammaelCB · 04-03-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Flipmode

I freely admit I played one of those overpowered utility classes, Illusionist. But is nerfing Illy DPS the answer? I dont think so. I cant imagine any class having that small of nukes at lvl 80 if you nerf them anymore.

Illy DPS is largely a result of SOEs retarded mechanics. We cast fast with perpetuality, we are able to keep our power low to do 25% more DPS on out pathetic nukes. Our real source of DPS is from a troub/wizzy. With those 2 in my grp my DPS jumps insane because i can cast a ton of spells and take advantage of thier short term buffs. Adding the pet with the mythical is gravy cause he procs too.

All folks care about when they see a parse is hey he is a utility class. They dont care how much of the dps is actually mine. They just whine and call for a nerf. Illys may be OP but its the games mechanics, not their personal DPS that are to blame.

I don't think I said anything about nerfing Illys, and if I did I didnt mean it. Im talking about further distinguishing the roles of certain classes that are being made obsolete. A DPS class with no utility or a utility/utility dps that comes close? Classes like assies and wizard are valuable SOLELY because we do so much damage. The whole point As and I are making is why have a certain class if another can be very comparable and provide far greater utility? I don't think anybody needs nerfing, but a few could do for a polishing to give them more value.

SammaelCB · 04-03-2008, 01:45 AM

Just to clarify I heart Illy's as well, and with a optimum raid setup the tiers are where they are supposed to be. Its just concerning how Sony usually handles their class balancing as they call it

Alesis · 04-03-2008, 02:25 AM

Remember back in EQ1 when everyone had a clearly defined role,a nd when you invited class X it was cause you needed that particular skillset for that particular job?

What happened?

Illuminator · 04-03-2008, 03:08 AM

Dps happened.

methulah · 04-03-2008, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

Dps happened.

MOAR LIEK LAZY DEVS HAPNED AMIRITE?

Pwnstrrr · 04-03-2008, 08:18 AM

Agreed.....in my ideal group set up I seem to be taking parses to town along side the necro...(conjy here)

Illuminator · 04-03-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by methulah

MOAR LIEK LAZY DEVS HAPNED AMIRITE?

Heck yeah. Can't tank? Here have some dps. Can't debuff? Here have some dps. Can't crowd control? Here have some dps.

Pinski · 04-03-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Illuminator

Heck yeah. Can't tank? Here have some dps. Can't debuff? Here have some dps. Can't crowd control? Here have some dps.

You're a wizard, you are the best tanking class in the game come next GU provided you gear yourself up to tank.

Slips · 04-03-2008, 10:50 AM

Guess that's why I made a utility class, so I wouldn't get replaced by some other random dps class. They just happen to have incredible dps based on the way procs and spell haste work.

Flipmode · 04-03-2008, 12:00 PM

And while we are on the subject of utility vs DPS...in the grand schem of things what is there for a utility class to do after he/she buffs? SOE has made most of our utility obsolete because it would trivialize content (they seem ok to let the mobs do it to us though). So if we cany use our utility, why shouldnt we be able to get close to T1 DPS. Not saying we should be with you guys, just near you.

When mezzing, stuns, and stifles actually matter in raids, I will take a DPS hit no problem. And if you believe that Epic update to our utility was worth the nerfs to all CC gamewide, I got news for some of you. SOE hoodwinked you. So their choice is to make our Utility meaningful or give us DPS. They chose the later option for all the utility classes except coercers. They are only being held back by their broken mechanics.